The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 923 | Old School Music Is Always A Vibe

— [100:00.520 --> 100:08.760] a lot. And I'm just saying sometimes they're not the same thing. They don't always mirror each other. They're not the same thing. They're not. Also, the people that go- But I think the other number's getting bigger. The people that go to the internet to get-

— [100:08.760 --> 100:16.900] Validation. Validation or whatever, make their decisions for them, are not necessarily going to the comment section to figure out where they should think.

— [100:17.000 --> 100:25.040] I ain't saying the comment, I ain't saying nothing about the comment section. That's what I'm saying about the internet. I'm not talking about the comment section. The comment section, the tweets is minimally

— [100:25.060 --> 100:33.080] important compared to people whose opinions may matter, people who have logical opinions, logical breakdowns, who listen to music, who have a

— [100:33.080 --> 100:41.480] worldly opinion. You see how we just, well, let me not, you see how I just bigged up, yeah, I'll talk to you after. You see how I just bigged up Kay Lani

— [100:41.480 --> 100:49.560] for like the writers? Yeah. That's kind of what it is. It's like we expect Drake

— [100:49.560 --> 100:57.640] now to get with the pros, the professionals now. You about to get the real, some good music. When you're

— [100:57.640 --> 101:05.820] with the professionals, and you're talented. That part. It is. You with Jimmy Jam. They

— [101:05.820 --> 101:14.720] not letting you. There ain't no bull coming out of this. That part. No. They ain't come, but guess what? They wasn't trying to do it. They was having a stern music

— [101:14.800 --> 101:22.820] genius think tank and they put some out and you didn't like it. That's cool. But in terms of them doing it and

— [101:22.820 --> 101:31.120] now we going to, I will never be that. I will never be the person to let. But what we say, well what I'm saying is. Fanfare sway what I think of. Of course everybody's knocking,

— [101:31.160 --> 101:39.560] but I think that number, that person like you that you speak to that numbers getting smaller by the day That's what I'm saying. It only more people are becoming sheep

— [101:39.560 --> 101:47.760] less is more than any of us No, I get that line is a line for a reason to even acknowledge that the other side is growing has

— [101:47.760 --> 101:56.540] no impact on the 1 that its power is internal. That number could keep growing. If

— [101:56.540 --> 102:04.700] a song come out, I have the ability to do something with my ears that other people don't. Of course, but that might matter just to you. But

— [102:04.700 --> 102:12.800] now to the success of my product, not saying we know Drake's going to do numbers, but I'm talking about to the reception of my product overall, the perception of

— [102:12.800 --> 102:20.940] my product, then the other side matters. Why do you think people get mad at you? But you let 10 Jo Buttons or whoever that have opinions

— [102:20.940 --> 102:29.100] that people give a fuck about say this album is great, the comment section can say whatever the fuck they want to. And back to my point, that's the point I was about to make. Why do you think people get mad at you? But you let Tenjo, you let Tenjo Buttons or whoever that have opinions that people give a fuck about say this album is great, the comment section can say whatever the fuck they want to. And back to my point, that's the point I was about to make. Why do you think people get so

— [102:29.100 --> 102:37.120] mad at you? I do a lot of dickhead shit. No, because your voice is so strong in this game that if you came in and said X, Y, and Z

— [102:37.120 --> 102:45.260] about somebody's project, it could sway somebody else's opinion. It should not sway somebody else's opinion, but if you go into listening to the project with biased

— [102:45.260 --> 102:53.260] ears already, to Mark's point, I didn't want to read the reviews about the Michael Jackson shit because I didn't want it to influence my decision in today's society when

— [102:53.260 --> 103:01.480] you before you open an album and everybody in Twitter is killing that now you looking at the album with a negative connotation already to think that this is gonna

— [103:01.480 --> 103:09.480] be trash you looking for that's real life that's real okay and I'm sure that that that point is really important to whoever it's important to

— [103:09.480 --> 103:17.520] and I don't want to be dismissive of it but on Drake album time I'm not thinking about these people I'm not going to Twitter yeah we we I'm not gonna say y'all it's

— [103:17.520 --> 103:25.940] weak because we all behave yeah we are y'all I don't care is all I keep saying. Got it. When the Drake album come. But you know who might care?

— [103:26.280 --> 103:34.680] Who? Drake. Yeah. Good fact. That's what I'm talking about. That affects the artist. Yeah. That might, my album ain't even getting a fair shake.

— [103:34.900 --> 103:43.100] Not because it's not good, because y'all are mad at a battle that happened before. That would affect the artist. It's not your album

— [103:43.100 --> 103:51.160] anymore once it's out. Fam, it's still my baby. I put this out. I put blood sweat and tears into this shit If y'all listened and just didn't like it, it's released

— [103:51.160 --> 103:59.240] to the world It is the world to do whatever it is. That's how art goes. I understand That sounds he should have been

— [103:59.240 --> 104:07.260] spending the last however much time creating this album locked in a vault cellar somewhere. So you tell them how you

— [104:07.260 --> 104:15.320] read what the fans had to say once it came out. I don't care what fans got to say once it came out. What were you doing when you were making it? Bro. Reading

— [104:15.320 --> 104:23.680] comments. You think niggas don't care what people think about the album when they drop it? Do

— [104:23.680 --> 104:31.800] you think the artists that locked away and built a album when they release it to the world you think they don't care What the talk is about? Of course they know

— [104:31.800 --> 104:40.040] cuz he just said if I was locked in, you think I was reading the comments, I don't, once it's released to the world, it's released to the world. But we're talking about, he's talking about the creation time, not the release time. I'm

— [104:40.040 --> 104:48.060] talking about the noise around my release or me being looked at a certain way can affect how my album is received by the public, and I care

— [104:48.060 --> 104:57.120] about that. Did that affect how it was created? No! Okay. Of course not. Now Ice, you also have to remember Joe is on TDE Payroll. Forgot

— [104:57.120 --> 105:05.180] about that. So, I've been suspecting for a long time. I even floated the rumor myself on different sites, under different names. But

— [105:05.300 --> 105:13.300] I got confirmation of this. I got confirmation of this. Yes, 2 days ago, some information came out from rapper Daylight,

— [105:13.300 --> 105:21.580] is that right? Rapper Daylight, you should say Daylight. People in the culture know, you should say Daylight. It's not The DR. I'm reporting now. The DR. It's

— [105:21.580 --> 105:29.840] just The DR, buddy. I'm reporting, sir. Sorry. Rapper Daylight confirms Joe Budden has been compromised by TDE

— [105:30.740 --> 105:38.760] Paola. And it's confirmed here because they have daylight. My your sentence it says this Drake has act as his main promo guy dot

— [105:38.760 --> 105:46.820] has Joe button. I'm telling you now start pushing it because we about to make a super super wave start letting people know is the next wave of

— [105:46.820 --> 105:54.980] people. So I think it's important, Joe, just for transparency, especially in this conversation, that you own your TDE connections.

— [105:55.160 --> 106:03.180] When I find that little motha behind that academics TV page, I got somebody that I'm gonna send a talk to. I'll tell you that

— [106:03.180 --> 106:11.400] much, god damn it. Just a quick little talk about what revealing the behind-the-scenes ongoing of you Basically

— [106:11.600 --> 106:23.060] about health and wellness Yo,

— [106:23.060 --> 106:31.240] I'm not being paid by TD I have never been paid by TD. I've never been paid by any artist I can't be bought. That's

— [106:31.240 --> 106:39.360] what makes me so different from y'all who shake ass for the fuck little Maybe not we get a little barter

— [106:43.920 --> 106:52.360] I get calls every week from record labels offering to pay me a lot of money

— [106:52.480 --> 107:00.560] to talk about shit that I don't care about or probably just want to talk about for free but in my own way that I want to talk about it don't pay me to big

— [107:00.560 --> 107:09.080] some shit that I'm not going big up. So I'm not going. No, paying me is a mistake. You ever got the call to not talk about something? That's

— [107:09.080 --> 107:18.560] the money. No, that's the threat. That's the health and wellness. The

— [107:18.560 --> 107:26.580] reverse smile. Yeah, but no, no, I didn't think that daylight was saying I had been paid but I understand what

— [107:26.580 --> 107:34.900] he was trying to say. He's cool with them. I took it. He's saying that that my reporting is favorable to TDE. And it has been while he was f**king

— [107:35.080 --> 107:43.300] ass. Right. He's doing favorable s**t. Yeah. Truth of the matter, I wanted to see all 3 of the big 3 fail a little bit.

— [107:43.300 --> 107:51.500] Kendrick just didn't at the end. He went up. He went up. I'd like to see him all pegged down a notch

— [107:51.500 --> 107:59.980] and get some humble pie. I'm gonna see the whole thing pegged down a notch. Yeah, it didn't work at all. And I called him before the battle. I said after this battle,

— [108:00.760 --> 108:08.800] Somebody's gonna make us look at somebody different. You said that? Yeah. I didn't know he was gonna hit the 2 for 1 special on it and make

— [108:08.800 --> 108:17.080] us look at both these niggas different. But that's what under the bridge for me. If this Drake shit come out and it's sounding like what we know

— [108:17.080 --> 108:25.260] it has the potential to sound like, I'm gonna be the first 1 to come in here and big that nigga up on his process and overcoming hardship

— [108:25.300 --> 108:33.400] with 1 of the tougher years to have in hip hop. I'm gonna be the first person to come in here and say that. I wanna ask you, you said if it come out sounded like we know

— [108:33.400 --> 108:42.200] it could sound like right Yeah, like it has the potential to sound like if he went in and got in his bag When is the last time Drake sounded like that? For

— [108:42.200 --> 108:50.940] me for me. Well, no, I can't say that. Let me let me let me not lie anymore He found some his bag on the party album Okay,

— [108:50.940 --> 108:59.160] you know, I wasn't a fan. Okay In my opinion, I also think He found some of his bag on the party album. Okay, I wasn't a fan of it, but okay. In my opinion, I also think he found some of his bag on Her Loss, I mean the

— [108:59.160 --> 109:07.340] 21st Avenue Show. Solo Drake though. Solo Drake has been a while for me. I'm on record. I'm saying years for you It's been 10 years for me. Yeah, and I just noticed that because

— [109:07.340 --> 109:15.780] I saw a post that views is 10 years old now Yeah to not find it at all Not sounding like the Drake that I know it sounded like I've

— [109:15.780 --> 109:23.860] been trying to again for me it started at more life Where I am not making cohesive albums anymore I'm making a collection of

— [109:23.860 --> 109:31.940] songs and I thought that was why he caught more life a playlist and they all kind of sounded Playlisty I love more life. I didn't like more life. I love more life.

— [109:31.940 --> 109:40.240] And Drake's having a lot of shit on there, but I'm saying before where I press play and I like 85, 90% of this, it stopped at views

— [109:40.240 --> 109:48.400] for me. And just to be clear, like again, if the Drake music is fire, I'm coming in here to say it's all the way fire. But I don't think, I don't

— [109:48.400 --> 109:56.600] feel like I can no longer comfortably pay wall the episode. Like I don't feel like the state of Drake is that for me

— [109:56.600 --> 110:04.760] today. This 1 might be. I don't think so. I don't feel like that. Yeah, I agree. But all of that- I don't feel like that. You're right, I agree with that. But all of that

— [110:04.760 --> 110:13.600] speaks to Public perception I'm hurt about that public perception and how far he's fallen based on public perception Like

— [110:13.600 --> 110:21.820] he was so high at 1 point that anything Drake related was something that you could put behind a paywall and sell individually. And make 1000000 dollars. And right now,

— [110:21.820 --> 110:29.840] he's not that in the public anymore to where it even moves the needle financially for you. Well, then, it probably is. I totally disagree with that. I totally disagree with that. Yeah, I disagree

— [110:29.840 --> 110:37.960] with that. And it ain't even got nothing to do with Drake. It's just their relationship. They want to hear

— [110:37.960 --> 110:45.960] what Joe got to say about Drake. I can matter what pay for it. I Will agree to disagree on this year or the

— [110:45.960 --> 110:54.000] 50 they'll pay Friday, too We'll see Tax month just hit I've been popped

— [110:54.000 --> 111:02.460] for a few months I

— [111:02.460 --> 111:11.130] do such a bad job trying to sound sincere about things I'm not sincere about. I might pay for all that episode. So don't be shocked. On

— [111:11.460 --> 111:19.900] some other Drake news, y'all heard about the lawsuit Drake, Aiden Ross, academics, and Steak, the gambling

— [111:20.460 --> 111:28.540] website app. Yeah. This 1 was actually filed in Jersey. Break it down. It's kind of the same thing with the other lawsuits that have been filed.

— [111:28.540 --> 111:36.540] Someone files a suit claiming that, well 1 that Drake academics and aiden ross are not disclosing that they have the deal

— [111:36.540 --> 111:44.640] with state like it's an a is basically saying Y'all are not gambling your money So y'all are leading the people on to believe that y'all are winning all

— [111:44.640 --> 111:53.800] this money y'all are playing the risk yourself and you're not so that people partake into it and they lose so So

— [111:54.520 --> 112:02.740] but yeah, it's just I think just like the fourth or fifth 1 filed in the country is different states Well, people come together filing the lawsuit is so stupid and naming

— [112:02.740 --> 112:11.820] everybody. It's dumb Tell me what I should be. I don't understand When I see Anthony Edwards on a Sprite commercial, do

— [112:11.820 --> 112:19.940] I assume he's drinking Sprite or has he just had a contract with Sprite? Like I just, nobody's leading you on to believe that they're

— [112:19.940 --> 112:28.160] making a shit ton of money. Gambling is gambling. Risking your money is risking your money. So even if this person puts up that I made

— [112:28.160 --> 112:36.280] $77 zillion last month, they might have taken a risk at making $77, 000, 000, 000. That don't mean that your results are gonna be what

— [112:36.280 --> 112:44.300] their results are. It's the job though. It's against the law. I know, but I think it's dumb. You just think the law is dumb. I think it's stupid because again, it's

— [112:44.300 --> 112:52.500] nothing more than an ad. Like if we see, yeah. But that's why the law exists. Yeah, the law says you have to disclose when it is

— [112:52.500 --> 113:00.560] an ad and then free-range I'll do what you want. Right? That's what I'm saying. It's an ad and you are misleading

— [113:01.080 --> 113:09.480] people then that is it's a big deal. See that's my point like I. You don't see it as misleading. Yeah I don't see it as misleading. I say I could be a little misleading. I watch academics do,

— [113:09.500 --> 113:17.540] I watch him do hours of commentary about hip hop in front of a steak screen, in front of a steak poker table

— [113:17.840 --> 113:25.880] pretending to, I don't know if it's pretending, but seeming like he's gambling his money. You can't do that.

— [113:27.460 --> 113:36.360] Is it confirmed that he's not gambling his money? I don't know any of that, but that's for their investigation. But that's why they're saying, we've investigated. Nobody's

— [113:36.440 --> 113:44.480] saying that they're connected to this company so if we find out that there's a link somewhere and that they're giving you money to do certain

— [113:44.480 --> 113:52.740] things you're donezo. I mean I think that makes all the sense in the world. But you're saying the steak table and the steak logo at the bottom of the screen and all of that other stuff, that doesn't

— [113:52.740 --> 114:00.840] say advertisement dollars? Or that doesn't say this is an ad? Yeah, but now when you turn around, because what they're speaking to is when they turn around and post

— [114:00.840 --> 114:09.440] their slips and it's like I wagered this amount, I won this. But if you didn't really wager that amount because you're

— [114:09.440 --> 114:17.500] given... They might have got promo funds or whatever the case may be, it's still a wager that they placed. That's illegal, that has to be investigated. That

— [114:17.500 --> 114:25.800] has to be disclosed. But that's, by the law, I mean, There are agencies in place. No, I'm saying legality all the time don't make sense for me, so I still think it's stupid.

— [114:25.800 --> 114:33.880] You say it's a dumb law. Even if it is the law, it's still stupid to me. Here's why I think it could matter. I'm just thinking this through because I haven't thought it through before because I didn't notice it was a law. Like, if,

— [114:33.880 --> 114:42.040] let's say they gave me 1000 dollars in promo funds and I lost, and I made 1000 dollar bets and I lost 9 of them, and then I promote the 101, I

— [114:42.040 --> 114:50.100] could say, look, I made money, but If an actual gambler were to do the exact same thing, they would lose money. So in some

— [114:50.100 --> 114:58.160] ways I'm misrepresenting my results, which is cool to do if people know it's an ad, because like you said, then it's a sprite thing. But I, see

— [114:58.160 --> 115:07.000] I look at it differently. I look at it like on this 1 ticket, I hit. And that's what I'm saying. I'm saying yo. But it wasn't your money. Yeah.

— [115:07.500 --> 115:15.500] I'm going to his point. I'm going to his point. He said. That's part of his point. His point was that they gave you 1000 promo dollars and you lost 900 of them and you hit on 100

— [115:15.500 --> 115:23.720] of them. You not showing the other 900 that you lost but it's their money though ish. Yeah. Yeah They're trying to prevent people from getting

— [115:23.720 --> 115:32.620] suckered into thinking that these high stakes games of chance are actually more sure than they are Because it's a consumer protection. I I'm

— [115:32.620 --> 115:40.940] inclined to agree with you that the, I understand the logic of it, but I just think to your point, and your point, like if I got the ad and the table and all this other shit, at some point we gotta trust the consumer.

— [115:41.680 --> 115:49.780] Well, and it's keeping the company in check. It's protecting consumers, but it's also keeping the company in check. There has to be, there's rules. Y'all can't just

— [115:49.780 --> 115:58.300] go, because y'all have all the money in the world, take 20 billion dollars, spread it out amongst people to make, and then those people with influence, lead

— [115:58.300 --> 116:06.600] people to believe that they just out here doing all this with, stay, stay, stay there 20 minutes. You cannot do that. You cannot do that as company. We'll have a conversation off mic,

— [116:06.600 --> 116:14.620] but. Take that listeners. Hey, when this episode ends, some riveting shit between me and Isha's gonna get dumped and

— [116:14.620 --> 116:22.880] talked about in that kitchen. Take that. And then I'm going to repeat it on Patreon. All right, what else? What else? What

— [116:22.880 --> 116:31.200] else? Oh, Mark, you left, but Mark, you left, but there was another lawsuit we wanted to talk about. Yeah, he ran. We wanted to talk about this. He was timely exit. Yeah, this Brian McKnight lawsuit,

— [116:31.580 --> 116:39.680] right? That's his lawyer that just called him. I'm talking about the Shabali. You alright Mark? Your lawyer until you stop the talk. That's crazy. He brought yours

— [116:39.680 --> 116:47.860] up and dipped off. Where's the cause he put it in the group chat. He Put it right in the group chat, man. Come on, let's

— [116:47.900 --> 116:55.940] find this Mark Bryan McKnight lawsuit that he's named in. Yep, Mark went to the bathroom to have his 1 last cry.

— [116:57.380 --> 117:05.460] They on your ass. I hope that little interview you did was worth it, boy. I hope them patreon subs went up he coming for all of

— [117:05.460 --> 117:13.900] that but Brian McKnight told mark he was coming for him too and mark still came in here with little dog attitude ego it's true Brian

— [117:13.900 --> 117:21.940] I'm on your side if you're listening I said You said it to me? All right, here we go. Listen to

— [117:21.940 --> 117:30.000] some beautiful sounds. All right, here we go. Yeah, yeah, come on.

— [117:30.000 --> 117:38.380] Trying to run out. Don't limp now. Says his ex-wife and 1 of his sons, some bloggers and a newspaper

— [117:38.600 --> 117:46.700] rolled out a coordinated assault on his reputation to make money from malicious character assassination. At least

— [117:46.700 --> 117:54.800] according to a new lawsuit. The legendary singer filed a lawsuit claiming he's the victim of a shockingly dishonest and sensational but

— [117:54.800 --> 118:03.160] false narrative, alleging he abandoned his kids and refused to tell his dying son, Nico, he loved him. In that lawsuit,

— [118:03.580 --> 118:11.580] obtained by Harvey, of course, Brian says the false narrative was cooked up by his ex-wife Julie McKnight and he says it's been

— [118:11.580 --> 118:19.780] peddled by his son Brian jr bloggers Marc Lamont Hill and Tasha Kay and the New York

— [118:19.780 --> 118:28.080] Post. In addition to the alleged defamatory claims about his last moments with Nico, Brian also claims Tasha Kay and

— [118:28.080 --> 118:36.340] Mark Lamont, I just added his name to that 1, falsely went online and claimed he was a cheater who had sex with a minor. That's nasty.

— [118:36.600 --> 118:44.940] All right, Mark Mark I love that song. It's such great vote not stay on that side. Don't like that song. Oh, I love this I still listen to bryant me night music

— [118:45.240 --> 118:53.300] man. The acapella version is the live versions of panels beautiful dude, man. I'm so I'm so Regretful that he hates me. I

— [118:53.300 --> 119:01.300] can't even perform nothing more you do match make people I didn't be shocked when they I'm not shocked. First of all Brian McKnight

— [119:01.300 --> 119:11.320] started this but not me but What is the great Michelle Obama quote when they go low I go to hell When

— [119:11.320 --> 119:19.580] he went on that Podcast with Anton Jamison and said Anton

— [119:19.980 --> 119:28.300] Daniel No disrespect to the brother. Are you doing it again? No, I'm bad with names. Yeah, this thing is a little asshole. Watch

— [119:28.300 --> 119:36.380] your fucking mouth, yo. Some people, I did think you dodged that 1. Dodged how? I don't know, I'm not 1 of those people. How do you dodge it? I

— [119:36.380 --> 119:44.460] don't have no beef with Anton Daniels. That's a dodge. You mean to make up some beef? That's a dodge.

— [119:44.460 --> 119:52.600] Make up some beef. That's a dodge right there. He's saying it's a dodge because Anton was seemingly bringing the smoke to your front door and inviting you

— [119:52.600 --> 120:00.720] to debate. He didn't invite me to debate. He definitely invited me to debate. He did not invite me to debate. In fact, I reached out and said I would debate. And he said, Oh,

— [120:00.720 --> 120:08.760] you said you ain't know who he was. And he started to show him. Because I didn't. Yes. Because I didn't. Gotcha. I didn't know who he was. But he's not, and you know, you're my man. I'm not trying

— [120:08.760 --> 120:17.060] to be funny. Get that nigga back for that flat earth sh-t. No, he said. He showed it to somebody on my team that reached out to me. Pretty full circle. Which they did. But I don't. And you admitted

— [120:17.060 --> 120:25.080] this, right? If you don't, if you have a team, you understand, you understand this. You reach out for guests, we reach out for guests all the time. A year earlier, they said, I said I wanted to be the black

— [120:25.080 --> 120:33.220] Republican, and they gave me a list of black Republicans, and they tried to call me. What me and Flip is saying is that, Me and Flip. Yes, me and Flip, 1 of the possible 1 of the possible

— [120:33.240 --> 120:49.120] is that saying

— [120:49.120 --> 120:57.140] that when Anton was looking for you and couldn't find you, he went beat up Corey Holcomb and then you really wasn't looking

— [120:57.140 --> 121:05.140] to see him no more. But he was still looking for you. I saluted him when I called him. I thought he was still talking to Corey Holcomb. I thought Corey Holcomb looked like a clown on that. I thought

— [121:05.140 --> 121:13.200] anti-Hillidown. I don't gotta be for anti-Daniel. We don't agree on politically, but I don't be for that. But also, if Anton Daniels and Brian McNight are having a conversation

— [121:13.200 --> 121:21.680] and Brian McNight says something, It would be like if you and Flip had a conversation and y'all both said something about me. I'm not talking to the possible. I'm gonna talk to the,

— [121:21.740 --> 121:29.860] you know what I'm saying? I mean, you're not talking to me, I can't do it. You know disrespect, but you'd be Brian McKnight in that situation. But he said, he was, he was, he was. Hey, but it's all disrespect because it's like the nigga's just

— [121:29.860 --> 121:37.960] applying to something you had already said. Give me some. Right, but what was funny is when I went to the audio it was actually you who is it the word That's all the money bro. You said some slick shit about me.

— [121:37.960 --> 121:46.020] Stop. Yeah Flip and I'm gonna sit and flip Off you need we can't ride for you more than would you ride for yourself that nigga was calling you I called you out Your name and then

— [121:46.020 --> 121:54.080] they would call me Whatever he called you. He donated. I still said, no, I'm not talking to that nigga. That's my man, Mark. That's it, nigga. Niggas ride with you. And you didn't

— [121:54.080 --> 122:02.080] ride, nigga. Who did that? You took a back seat, nigga. Back pedal, you moonwalked. Rest in peace, Michael Jackson. You did that. So, whatever possible shit, It's possible that you're back down.

— [122:02.500 --> 122:10.640] That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. If you tell enough of 1 of them, you're gonna be like, that's good. That's good. That's

— [122:10.840 --> 122:19.360] good. Get away from me. That nigga said, if you tell enough jokes, 1 of them gonna be. 1 of them going away. Some of them got sticks. See, look who you wanna attack. Your man. Yo, Somebody

— [122:19.360 --> 122:27.360] gave you a donation you turned it out. I don't turn it no I said, I'm not No, I didn't that nigga donate $500 on a lot shooting that you

— [122:27.360 --> 122:35.580] gave it back. I didn't like no I said no Of course I kept the money There we go

— [122:35.940 --> 122:44.280] like I'm not bringing you okay cool the donation I bet but I'm still not bringing No, you wait I would have donated

— [122:44.280 --> 122:52.620] to that children's center. You supposed to be building in Trinidad. Oh, shit. Yo, shout out to St. Paul.

— [122:52.820 --> 123:00.945] Shout out to St. Paul, nigga. Watch out for the fucking Oh, shit. Shout out to St. Paul, Trinidad. What up?

— [123:00.945 --> 123:08.980] All right. But I want people to think I'm avoiding the Brian B. Night thing. So first thing- Or Anton. I'll answer either of them. So to the anti thing, yeah, he called me

— [123:08.980 --> 123:17.160] out, I guess. He did, he did. Don't guess. Why, I never listened to it, but I don't have- Yeah, Mark, shut your ass. You really didn't Mark? Listen to

— [123:17.160 --> 123:25.320] me. Yeah, Mark, shut your ass. No, he probably really didn't. Do you think you could beat him? He's a hot nigga. Can you fuck this nigga up or not?

— [123:26.180 --> 123:34.320] Let me answer that. God damn it. What I'm saying is after he responded, people said he was so crazy. I didn't listen to it because there was no point like

— [123:34.320 --> 123:42.400] I don't I don't have a beef And I will fuck you up niggas too much word salad. It's not we will be Problem with some that

— [123:42.400 --> 123:50.400] I'm saying take it up with Yeah, anyway, I don't have a joke

— [123:50.400 --> 123:58.840] and by the way, I don't agree with anti days But I don't have a beef with him. He actually was the 1 who launched that. I wasn't familiar with his work.

— [123:58.840 --> 124:06.980] Yes it was a diss and since I was clowning a little bit, but in real life, I wasn't familiar with his work. I wasn't being funny, and my team having called him doesn't mean that I

— [124:06.980 --> 124:16.620] was. Well, we don't really care about the Anton shit. We just. Then you brought it up. We were just antagonizing you. And I'm responding. Now to the Bright Me Night part, to the more important part. Yeah,

— [124:16.620 --> 124:24.900] see. Even that look. Yeah, cause I saw the headline today, Bright Me Night sues Mark of my Hill. And I was like, he's not suing me. But he's looking for him, but people don't

— [124:25.360 --> 124:33.580] respond to what's actually true. The original article. And I only noticed cause people magazine reached out to me to say, are you going to respond to the Brian Me Night suit? And I was like, what Brian Me Night suit? And

— [124:33.580 --> 124:41.980] that's when I sent it to y'all, which was a mistake clearly. Thank you for that, by the way. The group chat was clearly a mistake. You're some animal, guys. Right, you're a great word. But

— [124:41.980 --> 124:51.280] he's suing, as I understand it, his ex-wife and his son for defamation. And he's saying that basically, they

— [124:51.280 --> 124:59.340] spread, they got me and Tasha Kay to spread lies. Now there's other Tasha Kay shit about the minor. I don't know about it. I ain't got nothing to do with me. It has nothing to do with me. I don't know that

— [124:59.340 --> 125:07.360] story. I don't even know the story. But he's not suing me. He's just mentioning basically he's basically saying that I got used Yeah, I mean I would say he's not gonna so I didn't do anything wrong

— [125:07.360 --> 125:16.480] people have a right to interview people I interviewed bryant me night ex-wife and bryant me night jr. The first 1 and When I interviewed them They

— [125:16.480 --> 125:24.520] told their truth there's a lot of bryant me night jr. I was gonna be confused I Didn't want there to be any When He catch you and you stand by that you

— [125:24.520 --> 125:32.680] stand by the end No, I'm sitting stand by now in retrospect now that I stand by I stand by the interview I didn't go looking for people they asked

— [125:32.680 --> 125:40.680] if they could mark was doing shady journal Of course it was it and now he's doing the fan read his page Shit, it's not shady journalism. So I did I think

— [125:40.680 --> 125:49.020] it was gonna give views. Of course. That's why we interviewed certain people They said that's why you brought back to Lamar here, right? Cuz you thought it give You didn't bring because you didn't think it was gonna get you to educate the public on the African

— [125:49.020 --> 125:57.180] Senate perspective You did it because you don't think it's a good clicks And that's the same and so yeah interviewed them because I don't get clicks and smoke and because

— [125:57.180 --> 126:05.300] I know we got smoke I'm going to get your wife your ex-wife and your child That's not what happened that sounds that's a great story and if that is what happened I would be like cool. They

— [126:05.300 --> 126:13.380] reached out to me mark you are smoke with Brian McKnight before then why are you being obtuse? I'm not being I'm saying yes Just cuz I I'm assuming

— [126:13.440 --> 126:21.480] what you're saying. I'm not being obtuse. But we're saying. You're saying I had beef with Brian McKnight, and so then I interviewed his wife and kids right that's what you're saying You said I did it because of the snow. That's what I'm

— [126:21.480 --> 126:30.440] saying. I'm saying yes Yes, you say yes, but with a lot of words that come with the yes Right

— [126:30.440 --> 126:38.640] words up sometimes Attack me Yes,

— [126:38.640 --> 126:46.640] I had an issue and I interviewed him. We knew you had smoke, because you said you had smoke with him up here. But I'm not disagreeing with that! After my man stated that he wanted a n***a to come perform

— [126:46.640 --> 126:54.720] at his wedding, you expressed yourself about how you felt that how he was a piece Of shit that is not what happened. That is not what happened. You said he was a piece of small I'm a whole different story. That's not true. You didn't

— [126:54.720 --> 127:02.860] say he was a piece of shit That's okay This is what y'all do You say 2 things that are true and then when I say I disagree with 1 of them you keep repeating the second thing that I do agree with, and then people go,

— [127:02.900 --> 127:11.040] why Mark keeps saying he agrees with everybody, even though he's disagreeing. No, I'm disagreeing with the first part. He didn't say, I want Brian McKnight at my wedding, I said he's a piece of shit. There was a story about Brian McKnight suing his

— [127:11.040 --> 127:19.060] wife. Yes. That's what we were talking about. But also, he talked about 100 men at his wedding that same day. How is that relevant? That's how the

— [127:19.060 --> 127:27.080] conversation came up, Ma. Listen to me, listen to what I'm saying. That is not how the conversation came up. I discussed Brian McKnight and his situation with his family

— [127:27.080 --> 127:35.100] when we as a team had a conversation about the story of Brian McKnight suing his family. That's what I'm saying. So you've never had pre-existing smoke with Brian

— [127:35.100 --> 127:43.100] McKnight before then? I've never had a car, no. Before then? No. Got it. I was just a fan of the music, like y'all. And in fact, if you remember, when you said you wanted him as well,

— [127:43.100 --> 127:51.180] I said he'd be a great person, I would want that too. When the conversation came about the shit with his wife and kid, we all said that's kind of fucked up. But didn't Brian

— [127:51.180 --> 127:59.280] McKnight reach out to you? No, he said he reached out to you and you ignored him. But it turned out he was reaching out to the fan page. He never reached out to me. If he didn't

— [127:59.280 --> 128:07.380] hit me, they got a kick mark back on what you, Brian. That's a fact. That's a fact. Still hit me. He's still open Brian. Oh god.

— [128:07.380 --> 128:20.280] So anyway we all talked about it and then I said that 1 of us said he was an asshole. I actually didn't use the word asshole. I think it was actually you that said it. Whoa It's

— [128:20.280 --> 128:28.300] didn't say anything wrong. I'm saying the word asshole came out. I'm not saying you said Brian B. Knight's an asshole. That's defamatory, that's defamatory. No, it's not. You're going in the suit. I like Brian

— [128:28.300 --> 128:36.340] B. Knight. You're still going in the suit now. He trying to be mean to me. The point is, the conversation came up, Brian mentioned me in his interview with Anton Daniels. That's how the

— [128:36.340 --> 128:44.440] back and forth started. That's how the back and forth started. Yes, I had a criticism of the lawsuit, yeah. You did say, and Brian

— [128:44.440 --> 128:53.420] Winnite is an asshole though, you did say that. That was after the anti-Daniels thing. I still think he's an asshole. He's allowed to be an asshole and I'm allowed to call him 1. Of course. And

— [128:53.420 --> 129:05.440] he allowed the 1 to see you when he see you. And he's welcome to. That's all we saying. He's welcome to. You might get 1 last cry. You back.

— [129:05.440 --> 129:13.860] You don't want to scare the bride today. That's what got you in the suit now. Yeah, he's back at it. He's back at it. Look, Here's the other thing last thing

— [129:23.020 --> 129:31.460] What a fight and I don't want to fight Bride Me Knight. Tell him. I ain't got to tell nobody nothing. After I interviewed his wife and kids, but I think it was a fair interview.

— [129:31.500 --> 129:39.540] I also reached out to Brian and said, I'm open to give you space to respond. Oh, you're trying to double down on the Patreon. N***a, you just

— [129:39.540 --> 129:47.820] interviewed my ex-wife and kid. You're welcome to respond. You're welcome to come to my platform and express yourself

— [129:48.040 --> 129:56.040] as a journalist. I want to be fair and give you an opportunity in which to respond. I'm joking about the Patreon, but I told him we could talk offline on the phone if there was an issue as well.

— [129:56.040 --> 130:04.240] No, nigga. No, it's an issue. I want to talk to you, all right? Yo. You didn't have my ex-wife and kids up here. How about that song? Now you going to call me? Yo, it's going to double right

— [130:04.240 --> 130:12.380] on down. Yo, listen, we can get a nice backdrop. What's going to be the backdrop? So In closing, you're not being sued. No, I'm not being sued. Oh,

— [130:12.380 --> 130:20.500] it's a story ain't fun no more now. I am not being sued. You want me to be sued? I'm funny when your man gets sued. That's crazy. It's not funny when you're making a suit.

— [130:20.500 --> 130:28.620] It's not funny when you're making a suit. Look, Brian hit me. You got him? Cool, because if I get sued for my comments here, I have to say that I was pushed to

— [130:28.620 --> 130:36.740] do this at the behest of my boss. I gotta look up the best word. At the Joe Button podcast. We all going down. Yes, I know what it is. I wasn't here that day.

— [130:36.740 --> 130:45.640] It was Naim Akbar, light skinned a bank. Light skinned a bank. Gotta look up at the job in broadcast We all going down 1 hit a day it was this name. I'm bar the lights getting a bank lights getting a bank I'm letting him go. Let

— [130:45.640 --> 130:54.840] him go. Sorry Cory Cory. God's Cory. Let him go. Let him go Yo WYFL

— [130:54.840 --> 131:03.100] shout out to DJ Mack and Crash Dummy niggas body I said Crash dummy last time, pardon me. Shout out to y'all.

— [131:03.100 --> 131:11.210] And I kinda like the fact that the audio ain't good. It's fire. That shit gives a vibe. It gives you the cypher feel. Word. I listened to that shit a

— [131:11.210 --> 131:19.360] lot of times. The bullets just bred out of your layin', your Caesar. Ooh, let's go. That's a good feeling. Get the metal with your stand back.

— [131:19.480 --> 131:27.650] Everybody running to the same beat. Like a parking meter? I love rap when niggas can rap. That's the best shit. It brings you back. Shout

— [131:27.650 --> 131:35.840] out to Cory Guns. And shout out to Peter Guns, man. Let's go Like a parking meter And rap Brings you back. She had the Cory guns and she had the Peter guns man. It's not a rich dollars me. You're actually If I go somewhere else, they accused me of being

— [131:35.840 --> 131:44.340] creeps The

— [131:44.340 --> 131:52.380] guns Cisco I'm not in the creeps go. Yes, you

— [131:52.380 --> 132:05.580] are bro. You have to own that don't make me coverage dollars. I don't Thanks

— [132:05.580 --> 132:13.620] guys Way to debunk that. Thanks for helping me. Thanks for helping me. Thanks for helping me to get out of that 1. Alright, what else

— [132:13.620 --> 132:21.900] is important? What else is... Oh no, no, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, your man's your man's your man's your man's your man's in Europe and in the United

— [132:24.060 --> 132:32.960] Is 16 and I did sleep with a 16 year old when I was 30 when I was 30 I was a very different person. I

— [132:32.960 --> 132:41.220] was a lot younger and I was an immature 30 year old Consensual sex actually with a variety of people when there is a

— [132:41.220 --> 132:49.300] strong power differential Is there is when you're a famous man that has the ability to attract women in Europe and in the United to attract women that I had at that

— [132:49.300 --> 132:57.600] time. I think involves exploitation. I think it is exploitative. I recognize that my sexual

— [132:57.600 --> 133:06.440] conduct in the past was selfish and I Did not apply enough consideration Barely

— [133:06.440 --> 133:15.100] any I suppose really to how that sex was affecting other people who attract women There

— [133:15.100 --> 133:23.200] You have it that is Russell Brann admitting to sleeping with a 16 year old and giving you some of his thought process Just cuz you've got a British accent and you sound

— [133:23.200 --> 133:31.380] like you're evolving doesn't save you from being a fuck He passed at all like sorry, bro Yeah, and if you endorse this because

— [133:31.580 --> 133:40.680] he has a British accent and you liked him in the movie yourself and that's the

— [133:40.680 --> 133:49.060] legal age of consent at 16 I thought was 16 year old nigga I mean you would have fucked it yesterday If she was 15 and that's not addressing the point the legal age.

— [133:49.480 --> 133:57.560] I mean I stole her from ice ice like yo dog If you had to if your only thing was I when she was 16 that means

— [133:57.560 --> 134:05.760] at 15 and 364 days There's still be you still be you just waited till it was legal. Yeah, you don't look at it as a moral thing

— [134:05.760 --> 134:14.180] You look at it as a legal thing, right? So I think it's disgusting. This is disgusting, bro Yeah, I was looking at this shit like I was wanting like is this gonna work

— [134:15.380 --> 134:23.440] And so I think that's why he's addressing it. Unfortunately probably will there's certain people that probably will listen that like oh look he's reformed

— [134:29.040 --> 134:37.060] Russell Brad off your water here Russell ain't none of your fire like that anyway Stop stop stop

— [134:37.060 --> 134:45.580] stop stop slow down. No no no I mean I've a way Russell Graham was in forgetting sir Marshall. Yeah, which is a classic yes, but

— [134:45.580 --> 134:56.600] it ain't he funny Yeah, he's funny. Yeah, he ain't in nothing. He ain't up there to where we could just We

— [134:56.600 --> 135:04.920] don't forgive it regardless, but I'm just saying like he's not so good you're conflicted. Yes I'm saying when you saw him on Forgetting

— [135:04.920 --> 135:12.960] Sarah Marshall you thought there's somebody that's on his way. He was on his way into it. You know why I'm not view him like that? White America was on his dick at

— [135:12.960 --> 135:21.040] 1 point. I thought he was that nigga at 1 point. White America was on his dick at 1 point in time. I think he was in Get Him To The Greek 2 if I'm not mistaken. He was in something else that

— [135:21.040 --> 135:29.480] people like. That was all right. He was on his way at 1 point in time. Every time I see him he's just been an asshole. All right, all of y'all get 1

— [135:29.920 --> 135:37.940] undo from somebody that is admonished from society for their behavioral patterns. Oh, Monty. You get 1 undo. Stop. You already know what I'm gonna

— [135:37.940 --> 135:46.000] say. You already know where I'm going. Give it to me. Chris Brown. That's the 1 undo. He challenged it. You would undo,

— [135:46.000 --> 135:55.240] alright. Yes. Mark. Okay. Okay. Louis CK. Yeah,

— [135:55.240 --> 136:03.320] I think Ma might be a white guy too. Yo, but when you say undo, what do you mean? Like he could be welcome back in society? No, like he didn't take off the grievance.

— [136:03.380 --> 136:11.760] We take it there. We removed the grievance. They never did it. It didn't happen. Yeah, it never did. It never happened. You want to say Blue Cosmos? No. There's too many of those.

— [136:11.760 --> 136:19.840] That ain't 1. That weren't even 1. Get rid of 1. If I'm just going purely off talent, that Kevin Spacey shit. Kevin Spacey, yeah. I just about said that.

— [136:19.840 --> 136:27.960] Oh, that's a good 1. Kevin Spacey over R. Kelly? Again, not 1 isolated incident. Yeah. Gets a little tricky. Cause we used to, I don't know if it'd be like

— [136:27.960 --> 136:36.400] 1 incident or 1 character flaw. To take the character flaw completely, it would be, for me, it would have been Cavs, I would have said that. Yeah, I don't give a fuck about him. Kevin Spacey.

— [136:36.660 --> 136:44.680] No, but Kevin Spacey, I thought about that as well. Kevin Spacey. You ever seen House of Cards? Huh? Yes. I don't give a fuck about Kevin Spacey, bro. Why? House of Cards

— [136:44.680 --> 136:52.840] either, bro. Don't make a scene, I don't care about him. I'm not saying you, no, I'm not saying you. I'm saying, play for real. That's what changes life for me. I could make a homeless if I did. He's 1 of the more talented people that they got out of here. And R.

— [136:52.860 --> 137:01.060] Kelly. See my calculation was different. I didn't think about the person who I cared about the most. I cared about the person who I thought did the worst shit. Oh, I was

— [137:01.060 --> 137:09.180] thinking of someone who didn't do that bad of a shit though shouldn't right as I said, Luis You know, it makes sense. I get it. That's what I said. Neither's wrong. I think I was just approaching it a different way That's why I was thinking

— [137:09.180 --> 137:17.180] like who did the worst shit so we can undo that another 1. I will kind of Oh, that's it. Yeah by

— [137:17.180 --> 137:25.240] that the other By that which why yeah, yeah, yeah, also a lot of things but yeah But nothing but it's all the same mostly here say

— [137:25.240 --> 137:33.440] talking not actually doing law. Come on Let me get us off this creepy. Yeah Did you guys see the the Cuz

— [137:33.440 --> 137:41.520] you know, we had to talk about the marriage the marriage discussion in the hurricane commercial. Yeah, then they went found some other commercials She did I

— [137:41.520 --> 137:51.400] know that Did y'all see the commercial went on during the election when she sat down with Hillary Clinton? No. Is

— [137:51.400 --> 137:59.840] it a gun? Is it a knife? Is it a wallet? That's AI, yo. This is your life. It ain't no

— [137:59.840 --> 138:08.560] secret. It ain't no secret No secret Yeah

— [138:08.560 --> 138:26.700] kill just for living That's a American This

— [138:26.700 --> 138:35.140] is your life Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Is it a gun? Hell no. Is it a knife? Is it a wallet? This is your life. It ain't no secret. It ain't no secret. What

— [138:35.140 --> 138:43.620] they said, this 1 is obviously a lot worse than the chicken rap commercial. I'm not rolling. It's real. You know what I mean? No. Oh,

— [138:43.620 --> 138:51.700] yeah. Yeah. Yes, it's real. The headline of USA Today in May and September 2016, Mary J. Blige's singing interview with Hillary

— [138:51.700 --> 138:59.760] Clinton is beyond awkward. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. It also just sounded terrible. Oh my God, Mary. And we

— [138:59.760 --> 139:17.420] ain't gotta talk about it, but boy, the internet is kicking him agree to What's the

— [139:17.420 --> 139:25.860] I know we're gonna talk about it, but what's the theme of the criticism? You

— [139:25.860 --> 139:35.280] tell me what the Actually, I disagree with what what are they saying? We might close ish, please. They're basically saying that she

— [139:35.280 --> 139:43.320] using black people on her press run, and she don't really commune with black people like that. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They don't, no, that's what they're saying

— [139:43.440 --> 139:51.780] after a press run shit. They're on her for, actually I can find it, but they're on her for that whole women of.

— [139:51.820 --> 140:00.060] Oh, that was all the 1. Women are failing because they're staying at home and they need to get out and get out back into the workplace.

— [140:00.060 --> 140:08.060] And they misconstrued. She didn't say they're failing because of that. She's saying that any women that are working remotely from home are doing themselves a disservice

— [140:08.140 --> 140:16.340] because they're not. I'm still unclear if that's how I pronounce the last name, but it's the shoe fit. I'm Dr. Sarah Oreck. I'm the co-founder and CEO of Moveda Health, and I'm a Latina entrepreneur.

— [140:16.660 --> 140:24.960] And here are my takeaways about Emma Greed. I'll do a shit sandwich here. I love that she is a black female entrepreneur who's an immigrant to the US and

— [140:24.960 --> 140:33.280] is amassing a fortune and growing huge companies. She is everywhere. So good on her for a great PR strategy. Now the shit part.

— [140:33.340 --> 140:41.500] What I think is missing from all of these clips that I'm seeing is context and acknowledgement of privilege. And I think what's getting people so amped

— [140:41.500 --> 140:49.580] up is the fact that it sounds like right wing, pick yourself up by the bootstraps, just go into the office and perform and you will

— [140:49.580 --> 140:57.640] succeed, which is just not the case. And specifically, I think people that feel really betrayed by this are black women. So, yes, apparently she grew

— [140:57.640 --> 141:05.680] up poor, but she is drop dead gorgeous. She also goes on to marry a white European male who grew up privileged

— [141:05.900 --> 141:14.320] and had already made a name for himself in exactly the field that she goes into. The beef is point to be media. Financial security and connections.

— [141:15.060 --> 141:23.140] Then she goes on to found yes, multi-billion dollar companies and that does require hard work but she co-founded them with Kardashians, which

— [141:23.140 --> 141:31.220] means she had the proximity to Kardashians to say, hey, let's go into business together. And without the Kardashians in the equation, sure, she would have been successful, but

— [141:31.220 --> 141:39.280] I don't know multi-billion dollar valuation successful. Just saying. And also she isn't immigrant, but a British immigrant. And let's be real, Americans fall for a British accent. They

— [141:39.280 --> 141:47.560] think that whatever comes out with a British accent is brilliant. So ultimately, what I wanted is some acknowledgement of like, yes, I'm a very hard

— [141:47.560 --> 141:57.360] worker, but I have these advantages. Acknowledge your privilege. Don't pretend it was all you. But

— [141:57.360 --> 142:05.380] killing her for that. They're killing her for like they're in line with what you're saying. What? No, she's getting into the wise of it. But it was the get

— [142:05.380 --> 142:13.480] back into the workplace, go to work, stop working from home. Yes she got killed for that. I don't agree with none of this shit. And I'm not capable

— [142:13.480 --> 142:21.900] of her but like she got next to the Kardashians I don't know how but it sounds like because she was good at what she did. And yes, without

— [142:21.900 --> 142:29.920] her she might not have made 1000000000 dollars. Be a ranger. You don't just end up next to people, like it's a cop out for people. The way she talked and told her story

— [142:29.920 --> 142:38.360] up here about how I started off over here, then I learned this and I look like, I worked my way through the business. Before I ever met a Kardashian, I sold my first company for 24, $26 million

— [142:38.560 --> 142:46.780] when I was in my 20s. Before I ever met a Kardashian. So all of that other shit they talking about is a bunch of ifs. Well,

— [142:46.780 --> 142:54.860] before she met a Kardashian, her husband was who he was in the same field that she eventually went on to sell companies in.

— [142:54.860 --> 143:02.940] I sold my company, she did it was again, I don't want to do that. I don't want to get in the middle. And that's what makes

— [143:02.940 --> 143:11.080] it sound stupid. I didn't sell my company for 26 million dollars. Which is you cannot tell black women that they are not succeeding in

— [143:11.080 --> 143:19.080] the workforce because they want to work from home. She didn't say that. If y'all don't hear. She didn't say that. And that's the problem. She said

— [143:19.080 --> 143:27.140] that it is a detriment when they are working from home because you are not being seen in the office and if you are not being seen in the office then in

— [143:27.140 --> 143:35.600] her opinion that that's a detriment to you rising all the way up the corporate ladder. Do you see how that could offend people? That don't mean it's not true though.

— [143:35.940 --> 143:44.160] Especially from somebody, I can see how it'll be offensive. But it's not true. But it's not true. You don't just go to work, do your

— [143:44.160 --> 143:52.200] job, do your job at work And that's how you climb up. Nobody said that. That's not true. That's not what she said. Me and you can't keep saying this if you're gonna say that's not what she said. Let's pull up

— [143:52.200 --> 144:00.340] what she said and argue about what she said. That's cool. Because she said this. We could do that. She didn't say that's not. Let's find what she said and argue about that. I don't wanna argue about she said that, she didn't say that. Because

— [144:00.340 --> 144:08.500] she said these things. You are misquoting the lady, bro. So let's find the quotes. Can we find it? I'm pulling it up. I'm pulling it up. But based off

— [144:08.500 --> 144:16.560] what was said, I could see how black women specifically would be offended at that. There's mad other things in the workplace that prevent black women from

— [144:16.560 --> 144:24.640] climbing up the corporate ladder. Of course. It's not black women are just lazy and want to stay at home. She called it career suicide. Just find the quotes. Don't make faces.

— [144:24.900 --> 144:32.940] Just find the quotes so we can go over. He looking it up, but that's the misquote shit that have you fucked up and painting your words like they evil words. Nobody, she never said

— [144:32.940 --> 144:41.120] black women are lazy or none of that s***. That is somebody misinterpretation of what she said. And then it catches wind and somebody writes it and then some podcast

— [144:41.120 --> 144:49.180] to put it out or some columnist puts it out and now they looking at the girl like she evil and she's saying all this mean sh**, that's not what she said. I think I might have

— [144:49.180 --> 144:57.320] it. You have the full... Because I keep saying just like... I got a minute. Okay. Oh, I was trying to... And what I think is that work from home culture is

— [144:57.320 --> 145:05.340] a career killer for women. And let me explain to you why. Remembering that I have hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of This is on Kiki Palmer by the

— [145:05.340 --> 145:13.620] way. And hundreds of women that work for me. Now, what is happening is that we talk about all of this sort of upside of Zoom culture,

— [145:13.620 --> 145:21.880] but none of the rigidity of it. And no 1 will really tell you, but careers require proximity and visibility. You want a pay rise?

— [145:21.900 --> 145:29.940] You want the next promotion? You want the big corner office? Guess what? You need to be there. You might not want to hear it because it might be comfortable in your

— [145:29.940 --> 145:37.960] living room, but the facts are the facts. And I'm not here to sugarcoat information or to load women up with toxic positivity. So you almost feel like it's a way to also,

— [145:38.020 --> 145:46.500] I don't want to say push us out but it's almost slowly a way to be like you're not needed or you don't really it's not a There's no urgency because

— [145:46.560 --> 145:54.760] you're away. It's eroding the potential for women to be successful. Interesting. Period. Now

— [145:54.760 --> 146:02.780] 1 time does she call anybody lazy? And she didn't say black women. She's saying women. She's speaking in general for women. She's saying that in a good old boys

— [146:02.780 --> 146:10.920] club, it's easy to be overlooked if you home. If you in these offices and you rubbing shoulders and you making moves and your voice

— [146:10.920 --> 146:19.160] is heard and you in the boardrooms and you being loud and you being visible, it's harder for them to overlook you if you are being visible. Somebody's taking

— [146:19.160 --> 146:27.380] what she said and adding mad negative connotation to what she said in my opinion. To me it's, if I give her the most generous read,

— [146:27.700 --> 146:35.720] right, which is that she's just trying to say, hey, look, there's a thing here that will help you be more successful. I just think there's a blind spot in the communication of it.

— [146:35.780 --> 146:43.780] Because I do think when you talk about, because I think she's right. I mean, if you're home, it's easier to be ignored from home. I don't disagree with that. I think the question is why are women

— [146:43.780 --> 146:52.240] home? And if you don't acknowledge that, and We talk about this up here all the time. We talk about people selling drugs, right, or whatever. We always say, yeah, but why does this person sell drugs? Because they only got a cucumber in their refrigerator.

— [146:52.240 --> 147:00.260] They got all these situations. So it's easy to say, don't sell drugs. The hard part is like, why are you selling drugs? We don't think about the circumstances that get them there. What are the circumstances that have women working

— [147:00.260 --> 147:08.300] from home? But also, when women get to work, what are the things that make them still, you know, face challenges in

— [147:08.300 --> 147:16.360] being successful? Because it's not like if women come to work, patriarchy's not going to exist, pay differentiations aren't going to exist. Coming to work isn't an anecdote. That's the backlash that you've had. Antidote, excuse me. But That's not what she's

— [147:16.360 --> 147:24.500] saying. You know we're knit, what she's saying. I understand that, but that's not what she's saying. She's saying, she's saying. With all of these things, staying home helps, makes it harder for you. Yes. That's it.

— [147:24.520 --> 147:33.080] With all these things we gotta overcome, and all of this adversity, like the pay scale differential, the patriarchy, the

— [147:33.080 --> 147:41.120] white good old boys club, with all of these obstacles, you think staying at home is gonna make it easier for you? No, it's thereby making it harder

— [147:41.120 --> 147:49.280] for you to get overlooked for the proper promotion or for the other stuff because you're not physically in the workplace rubbing shoulders and demanding to be seen.

— [147:49.760 --> 147:57.960] I see how that could be harder. Like yo dog, we take this and start spinning it and then this person will add something to it, this person will add something to it. We just played it.

— [147:57.960 --> 148:06.040] So Antoine is not making this up. That's not for my. We just hearing different things from it. Yeah from my perspective I can see how people can hear that and be

— [148:06.040 --> 148:14.060] offended and that's not even a question for me And that's why that first woman you played to me matters Even though I don't love non black people telling black people to acknowledge their privilege that always makes it

— [148:14.060 --> 148:22.180] a little uneasy What is tons of millions of black? But I do

— [148:22.180 --> 148:30.180] think the person saying it, the messenger matters. And if somebody who is unusually attractive, from what I hear, I don't see beauty. Someone

— [148:30.180 --> 148:38.300] who has tons of money, someone who's well connected, has all these resources, and isn't from here, so they can't say, well, I can relate, I came up from this place, too, even though she came from the slums of East

— [148:38.300 --> 148:47.120] London. And is married to somebody super successful. That's what I'm saying. It's hard for that person to hear that person say, well, if you do this extra thing, you'll be successful. Yeah.

— [148:47.520 --> 148:55.600] Because it comes- It's all put together. Why they don't look at it as inspiration? No, where near was she? Why they don't look at it as inspiration? No, nowhere near was she. Why don't you? No, she did. She said she said if you do this thing, you'll be more successful. If you if you come into the office, you'll be more successful. Well, when I'm

— [148:55.600 --> 149:04.080] asking you. I'm being her generously. I don't think she had bad intention. I'm just like I said, I just think the messenger does affect how people hurt. Why? Why do people not look at it as inspiration? Or

— [149:04.080 --> 149:12.500] why do we put the different? So let me ask you this. She she was up here. How she's 42, I think she said she was married 27

— [149:12.540 --> 149:20.560] years. Right. She says she was married 27, 17 years. Yeah. Pardon me. So that means she was already ass kicking in business before

— [149:20.560 --> 149:28.620] she got married. Yeah. 1, I don't know how much her husband had when he walked into that marriage. Yeah. I don't know that. Isn't it also a

— [149:28.620 --> 149:36.900] little bit- He was him. Isn't it also a little bit- I don't know. I'm telling you. He was him. I'm telling you. Isn't it a little bit anti-feminist to tear her down because of the success of her man Like she couldn't

— [149:36.900 --> 149:45.100] have done it herself by her own Added to what the fuck he made possibly. I'm sure she did and Yo

— [149:45.100 --> 149:53.500] dog, we start finding any and everything to separate us saying, yo, she's super attractive. She's an attractive lady,

— [149:53.680 --> 150:01.840] but it's way prettier with the women than emigreed that have not with it. It's way pretty women and emigreed

— [150:01.860 --> 150:10.260] that have not excelled in business to the degree in which she's excelled. So I don't want it. We keep putting the- It's diminishing. It is.

— [150:10.760 --> 150:18.920] Yeah, yo. Yeah, but I do think it- all right, Kim Kardashian works really hard. Do we agree on that? Yes. Yes. I think so. Yes. But if Kim Kardashian gave a motivational speech to young people and say yo

— [150:19.180 --> 150:27.300] Some of y'all are succeeding in your business because you're not working hard enough. You need to just grind it out I would hear that different from Kim Kardashian Then I would from this all feels sexist to me from

— [150:27.300 --> 150:35.380] from from another 1 0, but see I think part of feminism particularly more radical and progressive forms of feminism, that it's not just about girl

— [150:35.380 --> 150:43.660] power, it's also about acknowledging political economy, it's also about acknowledging privilege and power and all these other things. And white women lean in, Sheryl Sandberg feminism

— [150:43.680 --> 150:51.680] is different than other kinds of feminism. Again, I agree that some of this does feel like it's personal. It's almost like they're holding against her some things that she ain't got

— [150:51.680 --> 150:59.940] nothing to do with. I'm just saying the message, the messenger and the message, as we often talk about up here, does matter. And I think someone

— [151:00.240 --> 151:08.560] who does- Especially when that's your message on nothing but black platforms that you're going to it does come off away It just comes off saying that to your black audience or a black

— [151:11.580 --> 151:19.860] Platforms like where she left before she came over here speaking. I wasn't a black platform. She's been on a run. She's on a run. You know what I'm saying?

— [151:19.860 --> 151:28.100] What does that have to do with what I said? You're saying that she's... We can't speak to what she said when she sat down with William Morris. The audience doesn't matter. Maybe the message hasn't changed.

— [151:28.100 --> 151:36.180] But I think that's my point though. People... She could have said the same thing over there. You don't know because you didn't watch. Yeah, but that's the point. Like you said, no way she said

— [151:36.180 --> 151:44.240] it, which was key former and other black platform. I don't understand. You said the message may not have changed. I'm saying it should. He's saying how do you know she didn't say that on a white

— [151:44.240 --> 151:52.340] woman? Let's assume she didn't speak black woman here. That's what I'm saying. She never said black women, she said women. So she could go on these white platforms and still say

— [151:52.340 --> 152:00.400] women. But because y'all don't watch them white platforms, to hear her say women, y'all won't hear it. So when she says women on a black platform, it's, yo, she's singling out

— [152:00.400 --> 152:10.300] black women, she's doing this. No, I don't think she's singling out black women. What I'm saying is, when you give a general message to everybody and not treating people who are different

— [152:10.300 --> 152:18.400] as if they're the same can be just as oppressive as taking people who are the same and treating them differently. Before you, Before you just, let me finish the talk for y'all. I

— [152:18.400 --> 152:26.420] know when I'm about to get triple team pause. Wait, I'm agreeing with you. There's no triple team. So

— [152:26.420 --> 152:34.580] what I'm saying is that I agree, her message probably was the same across every platform. What I would suggest is sometimes it shouldn't be. That sometimes when I'm talking

— [152:34.580 --> 152:42.640] to a group of middle class white women who have a certain set of challenges, it might be different than working class black women who have a different set of

— [152:42.640 --> 152:50.780] challenges. And so sometimes the working hard thing, If I'm telling everybody that the primary key to your success is working harder, I'm oversimplifying

— [152:50.860 --> 152:58.980] it, I know, but is working harder, that can sometimes be used as an excuse, especially against women of color, to ignore the other things that make women of color face

— [152:58.980 --> 153:07.100] challenges other than just not working hard enough. And that's what they're saying. And that becomes a problem. I'm not saying that was her intention. Can her message be saying, I know those things, but staying home

— [153:07.120 --> 153:15.160] makes it harder on top of those? And I think if she had said, look, I noticed all these other factors, but also you're not doing yourself any favors, that would be a different

— [153:15.160 --> 153:23.260] message. Yeah, she'd be receiving it. She'd be receiving it and just saying that. And I'm not assuming, I'm reading her generously. I think that is what she's saying. I think so too. But that's not what she said.

— [153:23.260 --> 153:31.280] And if you didn't have the benefit of sitting with her for 2 and a half hours and kind of knowing her a little bit, I think I could see how the message gets received. She didn't say anything to the contrary either

— [153:31.280 --> 153:39.280] though. I know but the world, the default position of the world is just work harder. Dog, listen to this, if she was a white man they would say yo you're a white man, she's not

— [153:39.280 --> 153:47.560] a white man. If she was a white lady they would say yo you're a white lady, she was a black lady that's from the ghetto, we're

— [153:47.560 --> 153:55.940] now saying, yo, you a black lady from the ghetto, but you pretty. It's always gonna be some 1 thing that is contrary

— [153:56.000 --> 154:04.080] that we gonna lean on. Dog, why can't it just be, yo, her message was her message to people and they might have interpreted how they want to

— [154:04.080 --> 154:17.420] interpret it, but she didn't say the things that people are saying. Niggas want to make excuses why they're sitting at home not

— [154:17.420 --> 154:25.680] getting up and doing something. Go out and do something. That's it. So what we're doing is pacifying the people that's making the excuses. Also, there are

— [154:25.680 --> 154:33.760] hundreds of things that are preventing women from climbing the corporate ladder in the workplace. But then why be mad at somebody that made it and is motivating you

— [154:33.760 --> 154:41.900] because she's not identifying or Picking out specifics of the injustice that black women face it at the workplace But sweet, but that's the point

— [154:42.040 --> 154:50.080] why why do we look we know already the people know we don't know we don't know You know who knows

— [154:50.220 --> 154:58.420] you know who knows though she knows She's in bigger rooms than any of us has ever been in.

— [154:59.340 --> 155:07.340] She knows. She started from the bottom, my nigga, and got to the top. And everywhere in the middle, she is the perfect person that has an

— [155:07.340 --> 155:15.700] idea of what all of these rooms are saying. I do remember her speaking about something up here about when she goes to meetings, they would give the check to the white guy. Yeah.

— [155:15.700 --> 155:23.760] Yeah. Sit down at the table. Her assistant is getting the check. Right. No, I get that. Up here, I don't have a critique of what she said. It's in that other space

— [155:23.760 --> 155:32.060] who probably may not have watched our 3 hours. You said some- And again, she wasn't talking to men. It's not men that are in the uproar. Men, this

— [155:32.060 --> 155:40.280] ain't our fight. This ain't our demand battle. The women are the people that are, yeah, they're killing them. So

— [155:40.780 --> 155:48.860] if I'm a woman that made it and I say, hey ladies, I'm going to tell you, you're not doing yourselves no favors working from home. Like, it's only

— [155:48.860 --> 155:57.200] going to make it harder for you. That's a problem. I think the context in which it said matters, that's all. Okay, all right, all right. I don't have a problem with that advice

— [155:57.200 --> 156:05.620] per se, no. Right, telling people. Let us hear you say it in the white room. Right. Let us hear you say it over there. But Mark- It shouldn't just be-

— [156:05.620 --> 156:13.680] But Mark, if that's the case, Mark, that's a contradiction, cause Mark is saying- It's not a contradiction cause he's right. He's saying- She shouldn't and wouldn't say it in the white room. He's saying you

— [156:13.680 --> 156:21.740] shouldn't say the same things in the white room that you're saying in the black room. That's what Mark is saying. Sometimes the audience matters. So don't say, yo, let me hear you say it in the white room and the black

— [156:21.740 --> 156:30.060] room, even though we don't know she's not doing that, because we don't listen to the white room. I'm not saying nothing should be said in both rooms. Nobody said that either. What I'm saying is Mark is saying, contingent upon

— [156:30.060 --> 156:38.160] who your audience is, your message could be catered to that particular audience. I do think the context matters. I agree with you. And who you talking

— [156:38.260 --> 156:46.440] to matters. She's done white podcasts and we heard that. She said this to Elle magazine. She said what to Elle magazine? The initial comment. The comments

— [156:46.440 --> 156:54.480] were made to Elle magazine on April 15th. She said that, which that ain't black. Elle's not black. And so I thought- So she said it to a

— [156:54.480 --> 157:03.260] white? You damn if you're doing it, you damn if you're doing it. You can't win, bro. Listen, so I mean, 1 of the factors I think that makes women not go

— [157:03.260 --> 157:11.380] into the offices is raising families and often not having a partner. Just as an example, I'm not refuting what you're saying, I'm just adding something

— [157:11.380 --> 157:19.380] to it. A lot of women don't have partners who do a lot of the parenting or co-parenting or and certainly not the care work. So now Emma has very specifically

— [157:19.380 --> 157:27.380] said that she limits the amount of time she spends with her kids, which is a very specific choice. Some would argue a very, it's basically saying to be successful

— [157:27.380 --> 157:35.420] I have to move more like men move. Yeah, she said, yo, I believe my kids are good with 20 minutes a day or some shit like that. Yeah, a lot of people would say that's not a healthy or good choice.

— [157:35.560 --> 157:43.580] So she's making a very, I'm not criticizing how she chooses to raise her kids. All I'm saying is that that's a very particular set of choices that I think you

— [157:43.580 --> 157:51.760] should also acknowledge when you're telling these women to go into the office, that you may have to make a different set of choices about parenting

— [157:51.760 --> 158:00.120] that a lot of us would say. No, I got it. Well, she said that too. I also think saying, if I'm sorry to harp, but I also think saying the only reason why you made it is because you're pretty is also terrible.

— [158:00.380 --> 158:08.960] No, that's not, that's fine. I'm not, I'm not. Pretty and got next to a Kardashian. I'm not, but the thing is, I think all of those factors have to be at least considered

— [158:08.960 --> 158:17.180] when I if we talk about TJ McConnell early if I were getting a pep talk from a player about working hard to get to the NBA TJ McConnell tells me that shit at 6 feet

— [158:17.180 --> 158:25.440] tall flat No, no, you know me working hard not super athletic all the other shit I'm gonna hear that different than if an NBA netball baby says it even though I know Kobe worked hard even I know clay times

— [158:25.440 --> 158:33.500] So I'm gonna hear that different if it's coming from somebody who didn't go through what I went through and I again She had a lot of hardship. I'm not taking nothing away from her either. I'm just saying how

— [158:33.500 --> 158:41.680] the audience receives it matters. Flip sat here just a minute ago and said that people are just trying to make excuses because they don't want to just go into work. That perspective is a thing that we worry

— [158:41.680 --> 158:49.820] about, that people will think that all these women staying home is not because of all these factors, But because they're just too lazy or don't have the initiative to go in and that's it or to Joe's point

— [158:49.820 --> 158:58.100] or to Joe's point And please they're making a we could or to Joe's point You're making a conscious and deliberate decision to only see your kids 20 minutes a day

— [158:58.620 --> 159:06.840] And go to work for 16 hours a day We're not going to look at that like that's a sacrifice, but you're gonna look at it and say, yo, some of these people elect

— [159:06.840 --> 159:14.960] to stay home with their kids, which is not a bad thing. She didn't elect to do that, and she's reaping other benefits, and she could have other detriments.

— [159:15.560 --> 159:23.620] It's your conscious, deliberate choices that are shaping your life, but we're not going to diminish 1 for making 1 choice and then not Yeah, I'm not I'm just saying knowledge that

— [159:23.620 --> 159:31.800] yeah, cuz everybody don't have the same choices Yes Mark's analogy that he made he's saying women are staying home because of

— [159:31.800 --> 159:39.820] X. But when you said it, you said some women are choosing to elect to stay home. True. Some don't have a choice. Some is not a

— [159:39.820 --> 159:47.900] choice. It depends on where you are in corporate America and what your level is. And what your economic background is. And it sounds like she's talking to the people that are choosing to. I don't care enough to fight

— [159:47.900 --> 159:56.060] with y'all. Y'all like these exotic girls, I don't care. You do too! Don't do that, you do too! Wait, so just so quick, y'all found Emma attractive? So y'all found

— [159:56.060 --> 160:04.840] Emma attractive? She was good, but she wasn't I didn't know. She was pretty. I

— [160:04.840 --> 160:12.920] don't care enough about it Know what that does Do I know you about the serious is not with something important But I

— [160:12.920 --> 160:21.060] wanted to bring up but something I think is significant that is Dre is now a chef I feel like we can't have a serious podcast without

— [160:21.060 --> 160:31.100] addressing the cable long way from dread please long way boy well and she only a chef because she wanted to stay home you know I'm saying so

— [160:31.100 --> 160:39.720] she got in there got some oxtail recipes and that's why she stayin home. Oxtail singular. No

— [160:39.720 --> 160:47.720] it's not. I googled it the other day and it's not. The internet responded to you. It really is singular. It's singular. Why he won't take knowledge

— [160:47.720 --> 160:59.220] from nobody? My nigga I googled it. You won't either don't say Google don't say Disagrees

— [160:59.220 --> 161:07.580] with you they can disagree with you Don't say That's it somebody that loves you is Joe

— [161:07.580 --> 161:15.720] buttons were over the fucking dictionaries were don't say it again. Got you. That's it I don't even look up whatever dictionary you want and

— [161:15.720 --> 161:27.260] don't say ox tails and that's the fucking end of it. No, it's not the end of it They got to say what the fuck I want and I'm not gonna Cuz

— [161:27.260 --> 161:35.280] I don't agree with you cuz there's no tell Oxtail is the plural of ox tail

— [161:35.280 --> 161:43.440] Joe. I don't give a fuck Oxtail is the plural of fish. Do we have to go to just push? Why

— [161:43.440 --> 162:00.860] are you so different? Why are you defensive About Wrong

— [162:06.780 --> 162:15.880] Like a prodigy Dictionary

— [162:30.320 --> 162:39.620] My you not smart in a dictionary you You went to college don't do the You

— [162:39.620 --> 162:52.560] dummy you didn't go to college What Yo,

— [162:52.560 --> 163:00.680] you dumb yo You know what? You want to know? Yo, you dumb yo Information and you think everything is a

— [163:00.680 --> 163:09.660] tug of war You Please

— [163:09.660 --> 163:17.740] you just don't say The tug of war You talking to somebody on the street telling them what that plural means Both ox tail and ox

— [163:17.740 --> 163:26.440] tails are widely used and acceptable, but they're often referred to the dish differently. Yo niggas are hard. Again! Again.

— [163:26.880 --> 163:35.020] Holy sh**. That's going to be a good meme. No it's not. I mean the answer

— [163:35.020 --> 163:43.240] is actually somewhere in the middle but I don't want to get it get us down that road I'm gonna leave it alone. It's like fish and fishes, fishes sometimes is correct. However, I've

— [163:43.240 --> 163:51.920] never heard of fishes in my life. I know but it's correct. Fishes is correct? Sometimes yeah. I've never heard it in my life. For example if I'm talking about 2 different species I can say like Fishes

— [163:51.920 --> 164:00.000] just like oxtails oxtails as I understand it. I don't want to set anybody off. I know it's I know it's a trigger Our triggers

— [164:00.000 --> 164:08.000] up here. I had no idea Because this nuts these I'm the father like a lot of times when you say oxtails, you're talking about different pieces of meat. Like

— [164:08.000 --> 164:16.360] if I'm in the butcher shop, I might say that, but if I said I have a pot of oxtail, I would say I have a pot of oxtail. I wouldn't say I have a pot of oxtails. The plural would be oxtail.

— [164:16.640 --> 164:24.640] Don't say it again. But if I were at the butcher, I might say, give me those 3 oxtails. I think

— [164:24.640 --> 164:32.780] Mark's correct in this 1. No, I'm absolutely correct. I was correct last week. I just want to see y'all. I mean, he's out of breath. He's red. Yo, what if

— [164:32.780 --> 164:41.180] I take them 3 oxtails from the butcher, go home and make them in 1 pot? Now I got them oxtails turned to an oxtail. All

— [164:41.980 --> 164:49.980] right. I love that we have a doctor here now. This has been a great, speaking of doctors, in all seriousness. Speaking of, we skipped Dre. We sure did. Oh. I

— [164:49.980 --> 164:58.380] was scared to go back, to be honest. We didn't say nothing about Dre. I think we did the best job that we could have done What the plural is she's a shot that's true

— [164:58.380 --> 165:07.880] that is true It's out the dress. I just absolutely We love Dre but it's a ballsy move why though Because

— [165:07.880 --> 165:16.460] she used to be cloned for dreapoli plates, so it's a thing we hear her cooking history Legendary legendarily legendary no

— [165:16.720 --> 165:24.820] I'm not Legendary inform please it was nasty like that she's supposed to plates that you wouldn't eat your dog Yeah, So nobody

— [165:24.820 --> 165:32.900] ate it up here before. I can only speak for me? I didn't. No. You had a Drayan plate? No, I didn't even know

— [165:32.900 --> 165:41.100] Dray-a made plates. I'm not familiar. I just saw on the board Dray-a's chef and wanted to talk about it. Thanksgiving every year, you know, it was... How'd it taste? Then,

— [165:41.600 --> 165:49.780] Dray-a Thanksgiving every year, but the story that is always gonna haunt her is when she with her kids yeah that's how a lot of people

— [165:49.780 --> 165:58.120] found out about so people are clowning like now you want to cook yeah yeah people like you could now you cooking after you went out to the

— [165:58.120 --> 166:06.340] and left and she was a chef where I did some shit you remember the fuck yeah yeah legendary story yeah I see this is a

— [166:07.760 --> 166:15.760] Leaning into it leaning into it and taking something that you're bad at and making it something that you're good at I think that's empowering. That's what a chef. I love

— [166:15.760 --> 166:25.000] that and it's privilege Why

— [166:25.000 --> 166:33.000] cuz I'm she wasn't cute she could cook she could have gotten to culinary school I mean if a man wasn't a man Culinary school is not that expensive If

— [166:33.000 --> 166:41.100] a man wasn't a man All right, it's a sexist again. It's a sexist again She could

— [166:41.100 --> 166:49.620] have got them she could have got into culinary school so financial aid Yeah Shout to dream shout to dream

— [166:49.940 --> 166:58.280] Absolutely cook it 2 games And Jalen Green. I know the Rockets are sick watching him. I thought that was a horrible trade. The Rockets

— [166:58.280 --> 167:06.340] gotta be sick. Maybe Another day I'll beat y'all down about how LeBron is the greatest all time and him winning 2 playoff games with his son

— [167:06.740 --> 167:14.740] is with no Reeves and no Luca is up there on some of the best legacy shit that any of us will ever see in sports. I don't know about the

— [167:14.740 --> 167:23.100] some part. In our lives. I don't know in some part, but him. You don't know about- If Browning were there, would they have won the

— [167:23.100 --> 167:31.120] games? Well, we don't know. We're not really talking about that. That's what I'm saying, I'm not taking that away from Browning. I'm just saying to me, The legacy thing here is

— [167:31.120 --> 167:39.189] that with down 2 star players, 2 of the 3 best players on the team, LeBron is carrying them to victories. I'm saying salute to LeBron. I ain't gonna do it at 40. I'm gonna

— [167:39.189 --> 167:47.240] see even more fire that my son is on. My offsprings. It's fire. My offsprings. But they ain't got shit to do with it. Yes it do. Yes it does. It got everything to do with it. Yes it does. Sorry Mark.

— [167:47.240 --> 167:56.400] Who else did it? Yellow eyes ain't did it? Huh? Never mind. Yellow eyes. Never mind. Nobody did it. Who did it? So,

— [167:56.400 --> 168:04.540] so, so, so, oh, so when Y'all just won the championship, Y'all was saying, that's like saying when Y'all just won the championship, man, him doing that with his 2 brothers. His brother and

— [168:04.540 --> 168:12.700] his son that came out as nuts is 2 different things. Yeah, Mark, you're doing that two-sting again. Cause that's where your son comes from. Cause what we're saying is,

— [168:12.700 --> 168:20.860] the point of it is, not only are you playing with your offspring, You've been playing and dominating long enough for your 21 year old 22 year old son to be on board

— [168:20.860 --> 168:28.900] with you. That's what they're saying. You're saying him just as a mark of how old he is. They're saying. You've converted me. I'm saying now I get what you're

— [168:28.900 --> 168:37.120] saying. I'm saying the same thing. I thought you were saying like him and Lebronnie took him to the next game. The 1 that, that's why I was like, no, Ronnie, you shouldn't do this. No, it's just why shit that you could

— [168:37.120 --> 168:45.180] be in the game and at the top of your game was so long that your son, who was 1 at, it wasn't his first playoff game was some shit.

— [168:45.180 --> 168:53.500] On the team. I'm not doing this with Marc. I'm really with you now. I thought y'all was trying to make Brock. You know, like it's like saying him and Bronte combined for 29 points,

— [168:53.600 --> 169:01.740] 14 rebounds. It's like, well, yeah, Bronte and none of them know. But yeah, salute to Lebron. You look for any opportunity to kick that man back I'm not

— [169:01.740 --> 169:10.240] kicking his back in it salute the brah we got a list Brawny James a little bit Barack Obama Brian McKnight Brian

— [169:10.240 --> 169:18.280] McKnight Mark got a little little people that he just kicked they back in it's true. As soon as they name come up it's true. Listen speaking of sports speaking of sports. We

— [169:18.280 --> 169:26.440] back at it Superb athlete I would say used to be oh man My dad is a superb athlete

— [169:28.620 --> 169:36.660] But she's still got an arm short The way you did which sports you think Jen could beat you at now? All right that 1 was too bad But this lady is

— [169:36.840 --> 169:45.520] that's Diana Rusini Even the first round of pictures I was like he might have just been cleaning something off her face No,

— [169:45.520 --> 169:53.940] they got 6 years No, they got they got letters and emails and it's hard to Try

— [169:53.940 --> 170:02.360] to shoot the guys some bail, man, but it's hard. That's his desk. And hers some bail, yeah. That's his chick. Oh yeah, Yeah, for sure. It's my work. The

— [170:02.360 --> 170:10.860] baby is named, she named the baby Michael. That's a common name. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm.

— [170:11.280 --> 170:19.460] Mmm. Mmm. No, that's his work. That's his work. That ain't his work. That's wild. Speaking of that, that ain't work. That's his booboo.

— [170:19.460 --> 170:27.540] Honestly, yeah, that's his job. Yeah, that ain't work. That ain't side work. That's his career money. And you're saying it's a common name, but that tweet wasn't so common. The tweet of, oh, I'm just

— [170:27.540 --> 170:35.660] staring at my son, my beautiful son, Michael, thinking what Michael had the best player slash

— [170:35.820 --> 170:45.900] was the best player slash coach of all time in the NFL listen

— [170:45.900 --> 170:54.000] there's always room for doubt that's you crazy So if you're her husband

— [170:54.000 --> 171:02.180] right now, you're thinking like... Oh no, her husband has the CIA on her. That's where all his shit is coming from. You name our son after...

— [171:02.180 --> 171:10.260] She probably was like, you know what, hun? I think Michael is dope. Looks like a Mike. He looks like a Michael. I think, what do you think about Michael? As long as he doesn't look like a

— [171:10.260 --> 171:18.360] Michael, because that would get complicated. Bro, I'm getting the D-N-A. Oh, you better finish this, finish this

— [171:18.360 --> 171:26.400] quick. Immediately, bro. You want to string those letters together real fast. I'm getting the test immediately, bro. You got to just take a good

— [171:26.400 --> 171:34.620] look. You got that linebacker neck. Crazy. No, he's just crazy. You can tell if he's a linebacker from

— [171:34.620 --> 171:42.620] the birth. It did instantly remind me of Cheyenne Bryant saying that Harry the Crumb and the Lowe's. Fall in love with the

— [171:42.620 --> 171:50.620] Lowe's. Fall in love with the Lowe's. It did take me back to that. I understood, I picked up what she was trying to put down with that 1, I get that. This is a prime

— [171:50.620 --> 171:58.780] example of that. This is his girl. It appears that's his girl. You can go marry who you wanna marry, go

— [171:58.780 --> 172:07.780] have your kids, but that's mine. Yeah, that's his work. No

— [172:07.780 --> 172:15.780] comment. Yeah. I don't wanna get sued no more. But That's my yeah No comment yeah, I don't get sued no more Speaking of I

— [172:15.780 --> 172:23.900] could see how 1 would take it that way. Yeah, it does appear They've been married since 99 Mike Mike Mike

— [172:23.900 --> 172:33.040] Vrabel and his wife What I mean wait, I mean Say

— [172:33.040 --> 172:41.600] at 27 years, it's a very long time Well, you got married forever, you know? No, indeed. Indeed. Indeed. I'm

— [172:41.680 --> 172:49.740] trying to find Vray Bull's dropout that he did at the draft. Oh, that was crazy, yeah. That was absolutely nuts. I'm trying to find it and I'm

— [172:50.080 --> 172:58.320] having some trouble. Yeah well it was the pre-drafts you know they talk to the coaches and GMs usually pre-drafts so it was it was the same. I got it.

— [172:58.900 --> 173:09.340] They brought it up. No

— [173:09.340 --> 173:19.380] 1 showed you any patience like Nobody for you I

— [173:19.380 --> 173:27.840] understand I could have addressed you guys sooner, but it was important to me. I had a conversation with the players, which I did yesterday. And my wife is on my

— [173:27.920 --> 173:36.800] ass. We began our off-season program, which everyone is excited to be a part of. Stacey had mentioned the players availability

— [173:37.420 --> 173:45.540] and I never my intention to have them speak to you or address you before I did. And so I asked him to come today

— [173:45.960 --> 173:54.200] to talk with you. At the same token though, what did you want him to say? Yeah that's true. The

— [173:54.200 --> 174:02.220] guy I've been, you know, the draft, the weekend of the draft. Well, so glad you asked. I mean- And I'm a Patriots hater to be clear,

— [174:02.220 --> 174:10.340] I don't want to see this go well, but they're killing him They're killing him because his initial response to all of this was this is a lot. This is a laughing

— [174:11.000 --> 174:19.080] Laughing matter. Oh, this is left. She was getting taken leave from work Handling this real and he was like, I'm saying don't worry nothing

— [174:19.080 --> 174:27.080] burger He went from nothing burger. This is a laughing matter to I need to check myself in a facility That's I'm taking time during during the draft

— [174:27.080 --> 174:35.100] go to cheater rehab is crazy So that's why they kick it his ass How fast he changed that position up and now you know. The

— [174:35.100 --> 174:44.580] pictures and stuff, you know. The evidence started to make it a little bit more. Yeah. She got that good P.I. Dog, you gonna live with the lie. Sometimes

— [174:44.580 --> 174:52.640] the truth come Talk to you though. Yeah, you gotta live with the lie stand up nigga there Right there as long as you can it sucks when

— [174:52.640 --> 175:01.540] they fuck you get caught with your favorite joint Sometimes

— [175:01.540 --> 175:09.720] they catch you with a joint. You better stop talking to her, alright bet? She was on the outs in my book anyway. But when they catch you with your joint that

— [175:09.720 --> 175:28.680] you kind of love, and they try, man this is going to be her or me? Make a choice! I'm choosing you go. It was a Choose

— [175:28.680 --> 175:36.840] your girl, but you ain't gonna cut Cut off immediately you want to drag that out say goodbye have some fun Last time sex or

— [175:36.840 --> 175:49.160] some something when they find you with you when they get your favorite joint This is his joint that now you got to go on rehab over he miss her She

— [175:49.160 --> 175:57.380] wasn't in no Radisson. They was at the private shindig in the hot tub dolo

— [175:57.380 --> 176:05.380] looking at the mountain tops. Sam, have y'all been seeing this shit? Like they done found a compilation of her like dissing her husband. Yeah, we played that. Yeah. Yeah, we know they found more There's a lot

— [176:05.380 --> 176:13.580] more. Oh, yeah I'm impressed by the photo that they're finding Photos from like little bought dive bars and all types of shit

— [176:13.580 --> 176:21.720] Damn they got you B. And the expensive hotel like that PI had to pay to get up in there. Like, her husband is paying some bread. Well, that's the thing. For somebody

— [176:21.760 --> 176:30.000] to have all of these picks for all of these years, somebody been on you for a minute. Somebody has suspected things for a while, been hoarding

— [176:30.000 --> 176:38.420] the evidence, and now week by week or month by month is slowly here by year slowly placing this out So they've been compiling a shit. Yeah,

— [176:38.480 --> 176:47.060] that looks crazy 1 and 2. I don't want to hear nothing about the Patriot way no more This is the Patriot Regular I mean actually

— [176:47.060 --> 177:06.160] 25 Anyway

— [177:06.160 --> 177:14.340] Diana Rossini you're done. Yeah, they did that shit. Mike Rabel, you'll be back, but the second that Robba Kraft get dunzo from you, you dunzo. Shit.

— [177:14.340 --> 177:26.580] Kraft, like, what the fuck are you talking about? That's totally different craft going going a little happy and enjoying and homeboy cause We'll

— [177:26.580 --> 177:34.940] get through this right we'll get through this You just took my team to the Super Bowl with a second year quarterback. Yeah, we'll give you a super club.

— [177:34.940 --> 177:43.260] Right. Yo, this next time. Let me teach you how to do it. Let me tell you how to do it. This way you fuck that. What? Right. The Super Bowl appearance saved them from all the screaming

— [177:43.260 --> 177:51.260] Robert Kraft wanted to do all year about Stephon Diggs to Michael Bable. Robert Kraft been wanting to go off all year about

— [177:51.260 --> 177:59.400] the behavior he has seen from some of these people. I can believe that. He's been saying, because y'all cooking and We winning. I'ma mind my business. But, The data season's

— [177:59.420 --> 178:07.740] over. But Mike Grable coming, all this coming out about him, for me, made all the sense in the world. Why you just turn a blind

— [178:07.740 --> 178:15.900] eye to some of the things that was going on in the team, you preoccupied. That's the thing people always sleep on about cheating. Or just, well cheating.

— [178:17.200 --> 178:25.380] To cheat, you're preoccupied. And if you're gonna be preoccupied, boy, your boxes better be checked. You better have

— [178:25.380 --> 178:33.520] all the ducks in the road. Bitch used to tell me that my 20s when I was broke, like they were like, you can't cheat. You can't cheat the machine. They they

— [178:33.520 --> 178:42.060] girl is taking care of bills It's paid cards pay rent is paid the kids are happy private school all the box will check you can't cheat So

— [178:42.060 --> 178:51.300] nah anyway Before we go I said a public service announcement who died more. No, no, no If

— [178:51.300 --> 178:59.340] you are a black male senior in high school or more likely for our audience, 1 of your children is a black male senior in high school, there's an opportunity for you to get

— [178:59.340 --> 179:07.400] a free ride to college and to medical slash dental school. So Tennessee State University and Meharry Medical College have an accelerated seven-year

— [179:07.960 --> 179:15.960] MD or DDS program with a full-ride potential and right now they don't have any black male applicants. So basically With this program

— [179:15.960 --> 179:24.240] you get to go to undergrad and medical school or dental school for free, but there are no black male applicants right now. So they're looking for people. So if you know somebody

— [179:24.240 --> 179:32.360] who's a black male high school senior who has a 3.5 GPA or higher and a 28 ACT score or higher and you

— [179:32.360 --> 179:40.560] want to be a doctor or a dentist, please, please, please reach out and connect for this program. The best way to connect

— [179:40.560 --> 179:48.580] is to go on Instagram, the black doctor, the at sign is the black doctor, and at least look into

— [179:48.580 --> 179:56.600] it. That's dope man. I'll cover your books. That's fire. And it should cover your books. I'll pay for the books. It should pay for the books. Y'all ain't gonna lie to me. Let's split

— [179:56.600 --> 180:05.220] it. We'll split it. You get into the bag boy. I'll pay for the books. Why he just won't say that? Why

— [180:05.220 --> 180:14.920] won't he just say, hold up for a minute y'all. Something just popped up on the shade bro. He

— [180:14.920 --> 180:23.080] said hold up for a minute y'all. Something's breaking news. I didn't say it was breaking, it's on the fucking board. You illiterate bastards, this is a black doctor program right there. Listen y'all,

— [180:23.080 --> 180:31.360] the Tuskegee Airmen are not black anymore. So we need some, if you scored a 900 on the SAT,

— [180:31.980 --> 180:40.900] the SAT, please take your way to Tennessee College University because we running out of black Tuskegee pilots. We

— [180:40.900 --> 180:48.960] don't have no pilots no more. They're going to give you health insurance, dental, they're going to do, they're going to cover the

— [180:48.960 --> 180:57.120] books. It's going to buy some books, give you a hoodie and some shit. I'll Put it on the books as well. I put some on that you got enough on your plate man When that school is built

— [180:57.120 --> 181:05.260] will find some Really appreciate you doing this no listen, I'm remodeling it

— [181:05.260 --> 181:14.120] so that's all it is. Oh, that's the I'll be in Trinidad next month Contribute

— [181:14.160 --> 181:24.400] help I am why that nigga's hanging you said you I'm gonna donate the oxtail now Oh, 0 you this is Caribbean for for it, right? Also

— [181:24.400 --> 181:32.840] said they would volunteer to teach at Umar's school. I will. Oh yeah, niggas bones. They just be saying shit trying to educate the kids. You know why he wants, DJ, you know why he wants you know why you want to

— [181:34.180 --> 181:42.820] know you killed me you killed me more you killed me so I'm gonna come work for you that's more

— [181:42.820 --> 181:51.200] reason why I wouldn't want to do that no that's not you why how about I just but anyway no you know I just want to help the black young men that make

— [181:52.160 --> 182:07.100] Me my initiative we offer money you owe me. Yeah I

— [182:07.100 --> 182:16.660] know that this person about to ask you about is a friend of the show, but I have to ask, You

— [182:16.660 --> 182:24.940] know what I'm gonna say? I didn't know what you were gonna say. Did anybody here see Mandy B on stage with Spectacular? I did. On

— [182:24.940 --> 182:33.000] top of him. I mean, he was on top of her. It looked like he's spitting her mouth. She swallowed it. She later came

— [182:33.000 --> 182:41.000] back to say that was honey, she also came back to say, hey I'm a nasty bitch. And she consented to it. Don't judge me, it was consensual, it was planned, that's a friend of

— [182:41.000 --> 182:49.060] mine, he was a complete gentleman, that whole crew, she spoke really highly of the whole ordeal, which made me think that somebody was twisting that into be something else.

— [182:49.060 --> 182:57.940] You know, of course, but outside of that, like, what did y'all just think of spectacular doing

— [182:57.940 --> 183:06.360] that demand? I don't get why you ask that question. I don't understand. Well, anytime people are spitting in other people's mouths, it's a conversation.

— [183:06.600 --> 183:14.740] You're trying to ask if we took it down before? Especially on stage. No, I don't care about that. Especially on the stage. I thought it was dope. I loved it. She

— [183:14.740 --> 183:22.860] had a good time. He put on a great show. They put on a great show, everybody. And I love to see people play that shit in public.

— [183:22.860 --> 183:34.320] I think it's dope. If she like it, I love it. Shout out to Mandy. Are you saying that because it's Mandy that did it? Like who she is? Mandy, you a nasty bitch. I ain't gonna lie to you. I

— [183:34.320 --> 183:42.720] understand doing it and that's your friend but Suit her the spectacular. I'm not just

— [183:42.720 --> 183:51.160] like I'm not kink shaming nobody. I'm not free shaming I know you're not I'm saying you think girl Just asking a question

— [183:51.160 --> 184:01.260] no you didn't ask a question. Spectacular shit. Like... What's your question? Flip,

— [184:01.260 --> 184:09.440] what you laughing at? What y'all cookin'? Oh, sorry. Oh, shit. Oh, come on. God damn it.

— [184:09.440 --> 184:17.540] Spectacular shit. What's your question? I just asked you. He said spectacular shit. Flip would you live in it? What y'all cook? Oh shit! Oh Goddamnit! What's your question? I'ma throw an ox tail at you Me and you No I wanna hear

— [184:17.540 --> 184:25.840] your question Spectacular? Question what? I don't know what that means. Elaborate. Total Poltergeist. Elaborate. What you

— [184:25.840 --> 184:34.300] saying? What you saying? I don't know. What you saying? You're spectacular, boy. My question is. Stupid us, stupid us, North Cal. You're suggesting that that is a. It's not Chris Brown, it's

— [184:35.480 --> 184:43.860] spectacular. I see what you're saying. Why the fuck would you? Don't speak for him, Flip. What are you saying, sir? Just say it. I got it.

— [184:44.420 --> 185:01.020] Yeah, I don't Understand what he meant. That's crazy Have

— [185:01.020 --> 185:09.240] fun with spectacular spin honey and Mandy's mouth was they Jamaican I

— [185:09.240 --> 185:23.260] keep saying spectacular though if y'all keep just I don't know spectacular Mandy. Well, I have an opinion But

— [185:23.260 --> 185:33.300] did he's lost who got dismissed your We tack it on Mandy well enough to have an opinion. I'll find out the answer, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Mark got the fuck out of there. I got it, I got it. Oh man. But Diddy's lawsuit got dismissed, Joe. If y'all care. Really? Mandy, I'm starting my own podcast soon by myself. Yeah,

— [185:33.780 --> 185:41.880] yeah, they can't hold me back for my whole life. I'm starting a pod by myself where I speak about the things that I want with

— [185:41.880 --> 185:51.580] them and you on the list. Well why you want us to say it instead of just saying it? Mandy you, I'm gonna talk about that kids power I'm

— [185:51.580 --> 185:59.940] gonna talk about the uno game that happened after oh I went backstage and

— [185:59.940 --> 186:08.040] played uno backstage Mandy I'm coming in here to talk

— [186:08.040 --> 186:16.140] about all of it girl. Happy, Ish, Ish can't stop me. Ish, we going tomorrow morning nigga, 6 a.m. Me and you flying in and we'll talk about it nigga.

— [186:16.340 --> 186:24.600] 6 a.m. We first, she gonna be in Atlanta right? She not in Atlanta. Spectacular boy. Love you Mandy, that was a lot of fun. We're glad you're having fun.

— [186:24.640 --> 186:32.660] Shout out to Mandy. Shout out to Mandy. Talking about you, at least on a Rewind episode, something. You gonna bring her up here for a Rewind? No. Oh, I said, oh shit. I'm gonna talk about Rewind. Are you

— [186:32.660 --> 186:40.680] extending it? No, I won't rewind. That's a different rewind. That would have been fine. Anyway, come on, let's move on. Mark, what were you saying? I was just saying, Diddy had a $100 million

— [186:40.680 --> 186:49.080] lawsuit against NBC Universal for that documentary that was made against him, and the judge threw it out saying the case lacked merit. And

— [186:49.180 --> 186:57.920] I just thought it was interesting because the reason why they, because Diddy's basically saying this shit is my career. And they pointed to Diddy's own testimony where

— [186:57.920 --> 187:06.400] he admitted, basically they were saying that the damage was, before the documentary happened, that the damage was already done to Diddy's career, and that during the trial, Diddy himself said that

— [187:06.540 --> 187:15.660] he was the problem. And so they basically threw it out. So they use Yeah, I think I think his case really had merit Sorry,

— [187:15.660 --> 187:23.940] sorry, you think they career up I think I think that Cuz didn't that doc drop before his verdict, right? Yeah.

— [187:23.940 --> 187:32.020] Yeah, I think that's horrible For them to have released that documentary before he got sentenced and before his verdict I think that could have potentially played a

— [187:32.020 --> 187:40.420] part in that all right, but that ain't fucking my career up That's some legal shit that I want to go and get a mistruck. No. I'm saying I might want to go and say the jury pool was tainted by whatever

— [187:40.420 --> 187:48.580] whatever cool my career was fucked up before that doc Yeah, and specifically his quote was because of my decisions. I lost my freedom. I lost

— [187:48.580 --> 187:56.780] my career, I totally destroyed my reputation. He wrote that to the judge. His career was fucked up when that video dropped. You fucked yourself right there. Yeah, he fucked himself right there.

— [187:56.940 --> 188:05.100] But also there has to be space for journalists, it goes back to Brad Meany 19, there has to be space for journalists to do work and to be able to trade ideas and get different opinions

— [188:05.100 --> 188:14.660] and offer perspectives. They didn't say anything to slander him. There was nothing libelous about it. So, you know. You don't think nothing in that doc was subjective?

— [188:15.340 --> 188:23.360] Maybe, but there has to be room for subjectivity. My job isn't to be his advocate. Got you. But I thought it's to be, I don't know, because you're a journalist.

— [188:23.560 --> 188:31.780] Isn't a journalist's job to be objective? It's to be fair. It's to be fair. So for example, If I do a documentary on

— [188:31.780 --> 188:41.020] the Boston Marathon bomber, I don't have to be I don't have to I can be fair and tell the story Properly, but I don't to pretend he's not they he's a monster. Yeah, exactly Speaking

— [188:41.020 --> 188:49.160] of not having to pretend people are not monsters soon as I get home That hulk hogan doc is gone getting on buddy for

— [188:49.160 --> 188:57.500] episodes right on Netflix I'm watching it. I can't I'm watching it. Sorry. I can't wait. I'm watching every minute of it.

— [188:57.540 --> 189:05.660] I'm watching every minute of it what else what else would I think for the most part? We are done I wanted to highlight that rod digger tweet where

— [189:05.800 --> 189:13.940] she was wondering when somebody is gonna do the Clive Davis sex scandal doc That's a good picture. I think because it's a question that people have been asking

— [189:13.940 --> 189:21.960] for quite some time, but you're right You're right. I got a couple things a patient. I want to get through that's 1 of them Yeah, I want to talk about throwing something back in the ocean. I

— [189:21.960 --> 189:30.900] tried to get it out there Early do you went too early? Yeah, you went to the ocean way too early first 20 minutes only cuz it felt like You

— [189:30.900 --> 189:39.060] know too early. It's fine. It's fine So the mutual say all right, man. Good vibes. Good vibes today. Great show man What y'all got going

— [189:39.060 --> 189:47.360] on this weekend? Anything, anything, anything? Outside. We partying for her. Party. Hey, we partying for Graham tonight. Happy birthday, Graham. Happy birthday, baby, I love you. Happy birthday,

— [189:47.460 --> 189:55.780] Graham, we love you, man. Outside, outside. I Absolutely love the flyer that says throwback. We're taking it back to 2016. Yeah,

— [189:55.780 --> 190:04.180] I Was like, you know, how old am I? That's my dad that was to you deck again. Okay, that's throwback now. Yeah

— [190:05.340 --> 190:13.360] All the dudes are gonna be dressed exactly the same way I still dress like it's 20 6 Yeah, other than that I think I'm chilling man, I ain't

— [190:13.360 --> 190:21.480] got too much gonna oh wait wait wait might have to hit that my man dollar scandala call said Isaiah Haran is in New York

— [190:21.480 --> 190:29.520] City Sunday night I might have to make my way over there man other than that man y'all hold it down keep us in your prayers Lord

— [190:29.520 --> 190:37.640] knows we need to be there until the next time we bid you a do farewell adios to Riva D'Urci hasta la vista arvois so long goodbye or

— [190:37.640 --> 190:45.940] simple head nobles suffice remember life is a series of moments and moments past so let's make this 1 last as if it's all

— [190:46.160 --> 190:54.520] we have lastly the baddies are insecure the stagnant women want to travel in a closed mind they women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol,

— [190:54.520 --> 191:02.640] you might need it. Go Knicks tonight. Knicks, you lose tonight, you're done, buddy. Yeah. You lose tonight, you're done.

— [191:02.640 --> 191:10.680] Clear your lockout. Word. For hell. All right, let's piece it up, yo. You can say oxtails. Shut your dumb ass up. Nah, for

— [191:10.680 --> 191:18.700] real, I shouldn't have screamed that you like that that was wrong you said my apology Well exactly I want to bother

— [191:18.700 --> 191:27.080] you from you nigga. I'm gonna knock him out when I'm telling you Yo, it's coming. It's coming Y'all hold it down man. Stay safe this weekend be

— [191:27.080 --> 191:35.340] blessed this weekend Go see that Michael movie man, and if you blessed enough bring some entertainment with you see it tonight

— [191:36.280 --> 191:44.460] We go with I was there watching the draft You

— [191:44.460 --> 191:52.460] shouldn't know Did

— [191:52.460 --> 192:07.920] you know you're going yeah, Yes, you know, I spoke to okay Boy

— [192:08.740 --> 192:17.040] I can shoot it. Oh, no, I pause the drop New Drop New Drop New Drop Boy Oh no, I pulled the drop JVP Let's go better I pulled the drop You know better All right, yeah

— [192:17.040 --> 192:25.640] Muted up Muted up You know we get checked twice Yeah 1 of the possibles Yeah Hey, we get checked twice Bang Alright, yeah, mute it up. Mute it up. Oh god, what an impossible thing. Hey, we'll get checked twice, boy. BANG! Enough of that, D. JVP,

— [192:25.780 --> 192:34.000] JVP, why would you be without the JVP? HAHAHAHAHAHA! I'm from the Webbing Nidder era. It's the network!

— [192:34.180 --> 192:47.160] BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM! No job done! You

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