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0:01 The thoughts, views and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious, it 0:09 is not real. No 1 is exposing, revealing, indicting or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. 0:17 We are trained professionals. Do not have your best interests at heart. Or enjoy the show. What 0:33 is this? The change we need, back to business. I 0:41 just right now, we should start the show. Fire this bad boy up. Yeah, man. Fire this bad boy up, man. 0:51 All right. How y'all feeling? Secret takes. This is the quietest I've ever heard this room before well first of all First of 0:59 all, I was a little perturbed when I got here. Why is that? Because nobody was here. Oh, yeah. Ice was here. It was a late night. And Ice was 1:07 here. I gotta shoot my Gossam Bell. B. Dot was here, but he ran to the store. Yeah, I pulled an all-nighter. B. Dot, welcome back, man. Thank you. Good to see you. Feels good to be here, right, 1:15 Mark? There's no bread. I like what you did there. Yeah, yeah, let them know. It's the Drake word play. Yeah, man. Let's not just breeze 1:23 over everybody being late though. On Drake Day? It was a late night. On Drake Day. It was a late night. We were expecting 1 album. On Iceman and Habibati 1:33 and Maid of Anna Day. It was a late night. Y'all have to know that this is the day that pays the bills for the year That's 1:41 why you niggas looking moisturized We got seen that's the tissue. Yeah, I got a facial 2 days ago. It's through on the fear of God, not the 1:49 essentials. Oh, never mind, that's essentials. Even on Drake Day? He should be on Drake Day. I thought he had on the fear of God. That's crazy. We're supposed to all 1:57 be a family on Drake Day. Through the travesties on those guys. My guy's done. Special occasion. All right, so this is the quietest I've ever heard this room. Everybody 2:06 is keeping their takes to themselves. Our board says Iceman Habib T and made of honor. I don't know how anybody feels about anything. 2:14 Mark is saying He's writing down what he thinks people are gonna say takes right here. Okay That's fine. I'm gonna send it over to Cory right now so that you won't 2:22 say I changed it. Okay, I Could probably guess what mark goes that you say the same shit for a album. No, I don't hey, I'm did you like anyway? I 2:32 gotta go back in to see what JB TV said about that. See what you gonna say? Yeah, you know he went home wrote some jokes down for 2:40 me What he did all right have a good time very specific thoughts on this I want to hear oh, yeah Yeah, You tell me 2:48 later? I'll tell you, yeah you're gonna like it. Alright good. Alright. Lack code means rewind, a gun shot means forward. 2:57 You requested it so we rewound. Yeah. Come on man. Yeah way 3:07 way Enemies got a lot of 3:15 enemies Try to drain me of my energy Trying to take away from a nigga You know what I mean, y'all got about 8 minutes to gather yourselves 3:23 Nigga, I got girls in real life tryna fuck up my day Fuck going online, I ain't part of my bitch I got real shit popping with my family too So 3:31 glad y'all could be here with us today Can't have the tooth Mic check 1212, mic check 12I got niggas that are still tryna fuckin' me over Always for the ladies, 3:40 always for the ladies I gotta act like I like But my acting days are over, fuck them niggas for life Niggas for life Yes 3:52 sir Yeah, yeah Y'all know what time it is out there! I had to weed too hard You said that 8 minute 4:00 voice don't straighten a heart Bunch grab a jacket niggas cold outside Winky you come get your stuff Still 4:23 up Oh 4:42 DmV what up out there Connecticut Boston What's going on out there? Why 4:57 not go full circle with it That's 5:07 crazy that this was that long ago. Right? Yeah. Look 5:20 how pure he sounds. So innocent and young and just naive. And even though I laugh it off man, it's probably true cuz while all of my closest friends out 5:28 got purie sounds so innocent young Fuckin grown man liars story tellers ain't need a campfire But I just want to tell the truth 5:36 before 1 of these haters love a couple Feel like a fragile star was a sunset box and harder than the yellow goose 5:47 Everybody getting ready for prom out there. I mean that prom no prom Yeah, man Congratulations 5:59 Everybody on vacation they might get ready for a good weather week 90 degrees next Tuesday don't y'all try that shit don't y'all 6:07 try that Nothing 6:30 Ayy Ayy Yes sir! Now 6:41 Hope, he don't fuck with you no more He don't fuck with you no more Rapid dog Sorry sorry buddy Barteros Nothing can learn from you buddy. I 7:03 appreciate that Ish still has is not like us face to like it's not bias This 7:16 year went up every birthday party Remember that's the 1 the DJ cut off. They cut it off. Don't 7:24 do that. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. And not Parks. Shout 7:34 out to the Patronies, all the subgroups out there All the music lovers out there Here you go! How much I gotta spend for you to write down 7:43 How deep I gotta dig for you to pipe Shout to all the hate listeners out there All the things I've done up until Everybody switch sides, stay on that side! Stay on that side! 8:00 EGAAAAAAA! Oh 8:08 man, this 1 y'all really was getting on his nerves the first time. This 1 he was really blocking you niggas number in his phone. This 1 we give you that sassy 8:16 ass. I yeah, buddy. That's like the way like yeah, yeah, he's better. Okay. Let's go Let's go For 8:24 working with someone else on a couple of these what do you really think of the nigga? With me father had to stretch 8:32 his hands out and get it for me And it's the boy right here Now you pop it up a car. You go be for the Jews You 8:40 make on you go do some other y'all 8:52 let us fit an image or whatever Don't push me when I'm an album. Oh, you're not even top 5 as far as your label talent goes I'll send shots. Well, 9:00 I got a challenge those but I bring calicoes to the Alamo I can never have a Virgil in my circle and hold him back Cause he makes me rest in peace for 9:08 you My brothers blur, you get higher purpose You need to sleep tight, you can't go back over here So you 9:16 don't wrap what you did, you just wrap what you do Don't be ashamed, you're friendly niggas that do what you do There's no dollars in your heart you an approach it Yeah, you might have sold 9:24 a college kiss for Nike and Mercedes But you act like you sold drugs for Escobar in the 80s The microphone of yours but then the signature faded I think that pretty much resembles what's 9:32 been happening. Oh, yeah, it's when he gave push our time to Love you push No push had a headache or something. He did not he took a towel. 9:41 No, but he had a headache. He did not Never heard this. No, this 1 he had enough He had enough of some of these niggas. 9:49 What happened? What am I saying? Let's not rewrite history. I understand, but we're not going to rewrite history either. But it's 9:58 Iceman Day. No, we're not. No, we're not. This is fire, though. This is fire, though. This 10:07 is fire, though. This is fire, though. This is fire, though. No way or not. No you not. This is fire go. No push love 10:15 today, no Ross love today, who else? No hoove love, I know it's going to be tough for us. No Joe Budlove. That nigga loves me that 10:23 nigga loves me they absolutely loves me in the door of course I love em it's ice man day let's get frozen 10:31 NIGGA in the tight to make a mess let's get frozen in the tight to make a mess let's go let's go 10:40 let's go let's go let's go let's go 10:48 let's go let's go let's go let's go got a great show 10:56 lined up for y'all I promise This is the new 1! This is the new 1! I'm on another level that I can tap into Like I said, they only blessed when they're attached to you The 11:04 only dead beats, whatever beats I've been rapping to And the product is still the best though It's only good in my city because I said so 11:13 It's a pity statement, I had to call a man by the besto While I'm to die Never a matter of could I or should I Kiss my son 11:21 on the forehead and kiss your ass goodbye As luck would have it I'll settle into my role as a good guy I guess luck is on your side Your 11:29 side, your side I guess luck is on your side on your side all sevens no sixes rest easy get some shutout Hold 11:46 shows but I play staples today The neighborhood is smoky I stay safe in this place Trishy got the job, Dan is in disarray I tell you 11:54 idiot, we both know end of the day Your niggas is pressing play, your nanny is pressing play Your wifey, Your wifey, your wifey, your wifey, your wifey 12:02 Your wifey, your wifey, your wifey Your wifey, your wifey, your wifey Your wifey, your wifey, your wifey Your wifey, your wifey, your wifey Keep 12:10 this applause going right quick Got a great show lined up for y'all today In a real good mood got a whole lot of sleep took my 12:18 old nigga nap To stay up and wait for these motherfucking 75 songs. God damn it This nigga is 12:26 not doing it for his 46 year old fans We're 12:42 gonna play with it today man. Pause. Pause! You icy ass. Who is that? It's Mark from our 12:50 hill, quizzing, quizzing, quizzing, quizzing. All right, what episode is this? 929. Welcome 12:59 to episode 929 of the Joe Budden podcast brought to you by fueled by powered by price picks price is 13:07 gang Mr. 13:16 Take it further himself. Let's go, Freeze. They know what time it is. Little Helmy. Little Helmy. From 13:24 the Bronx, the JVP City Man of the Year, Mr. Beige Rage. 13:34 E Mani. Shout out to E, he'll be here later. Shout out to Mona and Flip at Starbucks. Here with us in spirits. 13:43 Stoneface himself! No Smile now for Drake! Let's go! Let's go! Let's go! Let's go! 13:51 Hey! From Queens! Oh! Whose flirting style is to tell women their elbows look moisturized! Welcome 14:00 back! B-Dot! Hey! Hey! From Queens! From Queens! From Queens! From Queens! From Queens! 14:09 From Queens! From Queens! From Queens! From Queens! From Queens! Welcome back, B-Dot! Hey! The man who rules fights. Hello. The man, the myth, the engineer, Mr. Musicality Parks! Look at Parks. 14:18 From Jersey, the main man, Tom, Who is gonna pay wall the shit out of this episode. I'm glad 14:26 you know it. The 1, the only, the Potfather, Joe Bonin! 14:36 Yeah man. We're here. Yo dog. Mark was not in the intro but he was supposed to be at Starbucks too. Yeah they had him on the Starbucks list. 14:45 Yeah you know we don't let Mark talk about Mark is here to talk about mom Donnie closing the deficit In New York Mark is here to talk sign bar 15:01 Listen man, how y'all doing? How you doing? What up? What up? What up? Talk to me. Feeling great. Feeling great. Good, good. Y'all look good, smelling good. Oh my 15:09 god. A lot of fucking music. What a night. A lot of music. Yep. And I caught a nice little vibe listening to it, you know what I mean? 15:17 I caught the stream. Same. Entire stream? Well, I caught the, I was like late and then they deleted it is it was it Yeah was done. So I missed 15:25 the last 20 minutes. He kept calling my phone while the stream is on Some of the songs he started cooking he go. Yeah, I mean get out of here on the phone. I almost put that shit on 15:33 do not disturb. I caught him Ellie and shit cuz I don't know how to find a stream. I had that shit on the TV the big screen in the living room. I had it in the studio. Turned off. Bigs. Oh 15:41 y'all did it the right way. Yeah. Yeah. I had a party in the crib. I was on my phone butt ass laying in bed with my feet red. I didn't hear 15:49 no beats. We didn't need that. We didn't need that. I should have put it on my TV because it was great production, but yeah, it was a great production. It was beautiful. Yeah. Yeah, he did that. He's videos What a good rollout man Yeah, what a good rollout 16:04 Like it tied it all together with the ice blocks and it shows the ice blocks on the truck. Starting the truck riding around and all that shit. Yeah. 16:12 And just music just sounds better when it's not out. Yeah. That's true. And it sounds better when there's a dope visual. Yeah. You know what I mean? And the 16:20 visuals were fantastic. Shout out to his production team and videographers and all that shit. That shit was cinema. He really did a phenomenal job. 16:29 Because I still feel like this is him. I don't feel like UMG has lifted a fucking finger to try to help him. I don't think this 16:37 is him. I don't feel like they've done anything. I don't think they helped him carry the ice to the truck. Nope. No. Seriously. I 16:46 don't think so. I don't think you're right. So yeah, you gotta tip your hat to how he's made this look I saw the budgets for some of that shit. That's some wealthy independence right there. It was a lot What was the last 16:54 time you think they've been involved? Boy yeah certified 17:03 lover boy because of that way that rollout went with the billboards everywhere That seemed like and it was singing his joints on it. They pushed a fucking future No, they push it 17:11 so it was a few of those records. Yeah, pull up your phone be dot but there's a couple things like I think they I think that They're involved. They've been involved after 17:19 the fact on probably everything. But I think it's been a distro deal for a while now, right? Yeah, supposedly he's owned his shit for a long time. 17:27 I'm only talking about how it feels as a fan and what I'm watching. I'm not in his business. No, no, no, I'm just saying, but if he did own his shit and 17:35 only have a distro deal He's paid up for it should take away some of their involvement. No. Yeah, I would think so. Yeah For the last project it felt like they were 17:43 involved in early on was cob for me. Gotcha scorpion for me Yeah, maybe see over because of way too sexy. 17:52 We're like when her loss when that came out with Savage, I felt like they were more hands on with that. Remember that like the lawsuits and things. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. But I'm only counting Drake records. OK, I'm 18:00 not here to talk about when Drake shared the responsibility with somebody. I don't care. I don't care about it It's just Iceman day. It's Iceman day. What 18:08 is there to talk about by Iceman? No, I'm what you you gave 21 a couple bars and they come in do the same hook. No old nigga All 18:18 I need is to hoes on the table and you can leave. Actually just say it once, we'll loop it. I'll loop it up. Nah, give me a couple of whispers, there's a 18:26 couple of different tones in there. Quavo, Quavo. Ad-libs. Is Quavo in there? They're Migos, it sound like, I don't know if they're like live. Where's Quavo at? I didn't 18:34 hear that. He's on Water Room Records. That's possible. I didn't hear that. It's just background ad-libs. It's like a mama or something. Yeah, mama, bando. Listen, 18:42 if y'all be quiet for a second, you can hear Young Thug waiting by the phone still. Young 18:51 Thug gotta be he by the house phone. He been on house arresting ain't been in the house this is first time in the house just 19:00 sitting by the phone wait he don't understand why how that call didn't come. Knowing Dre he probably FaceTime Thug and 19:08 Lil Baby like you guys. Yeah. Of course you understand. I appreciate y'all holding it down. You're hearing spirit. 19:17 I'll put you in the liner notes. And even your spirit, make sure don't come in this room. With a gun? Yeah, your spirit can stay over there. Don't 19:26 come in with no gun. But come on, let's, with no further ado man, hold up, hold up, Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. What order 19:34 are we going in? In order, in order. Iceman. Iceman first? Okay. Yes. Yes. I wish we would do something 19:42 else first. I did use a, let's start with made honor. Yeah, I love made honor. How fun carry on. Oh, yeah Me too. I love that. I 19:50 hope me too actually. Oh, yeah, I think those 2 albums are fucking brilliant I'll go made honor You 20:00 got to break it down for me I it's all right you 2. No, I'll tell you you went on Delta comm already bought 20:08 a flight bitch? Thirsty ass nigga. I'm an only child, no 1 could have made another. I have a father, my mother, 20:16 and treat my son's grandfather like my older brother. He's just guys at Grand Toronto They not a boom already. Yes already we done. We 20:25 I was sad. I was pleased and at the fourth bar He better he back at the fourth bar. I'm like, okay dope intro Drake is back and 20:33 what's gonna be a common theme for me throughout my analysis of this is how much the content has changed. Introspection. Yeah. 20:42 And I like that he got right to that. Introspection. He heard everything anybody been saying. I'm addressing it. Everybody's. Me, me again. 20:50 The fucking Drake whisperer that nobody wants to get my credit He heard everything that I said went back in the lab did he came out diss me told me wouldn't cry if I died Oh, I turn 20:58 for shit But he takes my fucking advice. Just another day. Can 21:14 we get credits? There has to be a credit. Oh that's tough, that's tough, that's tough, that's tough, that's tough, 21:22 that's tough, that's tough. That's tough When you look at your uncle and then see all the shit that's about to be in you in the next 15 20 years I'm struggling with that you too, but it's on 21:30 the low that's fire to talk about This 21:53 is produced by When he knows I'm in a load of trouble I'm in the cut just loading rebuttals And I got a bunch of hits on my hands See the swollen knuckles This is produced by Manish, O, Lil Angel, Boy Yan Yanel, Manny, Manhattan and Skyes You speak English? 22:02 Okay I'm not familiar with these people but they body Well they smoked it, they did a great job And no matter who produced it, I'm glad that we I'm 22:11 hearing about 40. Yeah, again, nostalgic for me. I need to hear about 40 because 40 ain't your other 22:19 little friends, nigga. You're able to say, 40 don't want to hear nothing I'm saying when I'm going through things, when I'm fucking up out there, he won't even listen to me. Yes, nigga, 22:27 this is your real friend, and you ain't looked right in a little while, which is probably why he bounced. I'm glad he back, keeping it real. I'm glad 40 came and said everything that I've been 22:35 saying But you love him Messenger matters now I'm saying all of y'all that was telling me that he got an appeal to 22:43 these kids. I Don't hear it here. There's a couple songs that are this 1 that wasn't saying that he has to I think he found 22:51 a good Middle ground a good balance. He found a good middle ground to be an adult and Yeah, 22:59 I don't Y'all can tell me what's for the what's for the yeah, but this was always my point if you just be you and Talk 23:07 about you and what the fuck you going through and how you feeling you dictated You ain't got a follow behind fucking sexy red even though she popped up on some other 23:16 albums. She did. I hit skip so fast. Nah, I like it with the 1. We'll talk. We'll talk. We'll get there. We'll talk. 23:24 He's working out with me now. He say to show your muscles. Who to me that you're still as strong when it's only you? That hits on my ass swollen knuckles line. Yeah. There's some shit you gotta pull me 23:32 up to. Basically saying I got grown up to do I gotta dig deep I really hate those 2 words They never break these you don't say the 23:40 bulldog in Turkey with my bitch and we come here for no big teeth But 23:48 all I can think about is the mountain to climb in a conversation surrounding my music like this when Pete Would die back in 2024 was 23:56 a big piece. So it's like the shit is me, but it isn't Me y'all keep on asking me what it did to me. That's what it did to me 24:06 When I did they say dig deeper tell us how to get the grand Reaper this album better have some big features What sorry to 24:14 burst them didn't even know her never wanted them nobody wanted it Nope This is great. This is great. This is for intro 24:22 Drake's always known to give you good intros Yeah, you know sometimes for the intro I can get a sense of what that what kind of album is gonna be Yeah, where he's 24:30 going with it when I heard this 1 I was like this was the album that I had been saying I wanted. I wanted a bunch of rapping. I wanted a bunch of introspection. I wanted a grown-up album. 24:39 The intro made me feel like that's what I was about to get. I feel like that's a misconception though a lot of times when it comes to Drake's music because he gives you that sort of pensive 24:47 lyricism, you know, like on songs like March 14th or You and the 6. He gives you moments of those. Yeah, moments, yeah. And I love those moments. Those be the moments where 24:56 I'll be like, that's when I'm the biggest Drake fan. Same. Well, and the slaps. Yeah, the slaps too. The Saunders Rose. This level of vulnerability has been missing 25:04 from me for a while. Yeah, it has been kind of surface level Left me to come in here. No, that niggas did the fucking Diana 25:13 Ross of today's no, I'm something is happening in this guy's life Yeah, he took some time to flesh some ideas out. Is what I got 25:21 mostly from all 3 of these albums. Yes. It's the last 6 years of Drake, maybe more. It seems like he's been ripping and running and not really taking 25:29 his time with the music in the same way that he has on this project. I agree with that. You can feel the difference. No, so Mike jumped on your ass, you had to go sit your ass down. That part, that part. And sit in a dark room. 25:37 However you got there. Nah, I ain't just saying how he got there, because that's back to my old beef. He was coming in here, talking about 25:45 what you was doing with these fucking 24 year old bitch, get the fuck, fuck these bitches. Fuck these girls. Like he was having a blast. He was rapping, 25:53 telling us about it. I'm like, nah, I don't need that from, so to hear him track 1, be this vulnerable and really get into letting people 26:02 know that he heard the dig deeper. And it sounded like he was listening to his therapist, even though she's attractive. Like, it's 26:10 a good way to kill this track 1. You gotta be careful with that. Nah, he smoked that hole, looking in her glasses, see my reflection. It's hard to hear what you say good eastmoor somebody 26:18 shit Your dude flashes. Yeah, no, how you flash is on this mother. There's more flashes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah talking talking really 26:35 that's 1 of my criticisms the business. It's a lot of these switches I think that's the I miss that I miss it Sometimes he pulled it 26:43 too fast. Yeah I'm still processing this shit. It got me so distracted. I think he's so desperate in our life is going fantastic He don't 26:51 have the heart to come and tell us he pondered for care Yes To me so the only thing that is oh wait 27:00 no Hilarious to me. This is hilarious to me. This is hilarious to me. This is great. He is distraught about this. He's pissed. Yeah, 27:08 and rightfully so. Me too. I will be pissed. Come on, Joe. My nigga, we up, look, don't. Stop it, Joe. Are you crazy? No, you know what? 27:16 It depends on, if we've been in the trenches together Like just say hypothetically you was taking care niggas you put jbp chains on niggas necks Oh, this is now this nigga 27:24 went and sold the chain when we get down You you feel some type of way he's he sound a little more heard about it then but that's what makes it funny 27:32 to me bro you drink be heard about I think he's right Right, I've experienced yes 27:41 what we ain't going in over there I've experienced somebody Me giving somebody a chain and I'm selling it metaphorically. Yes. 27:51 Oh, I still don't fuck with that. I saw that light bulb. Right. Oh yeah. If you talk about what I'm talking about, I still ain't fucking with him off. 27:59 Yeah, that was some slimy shit. Yeah. Yeah, but he talked about like top 5 or somebody that you knew was gonna 28:07 go sell the owl chain. That's not true. You don't know what's gonna happen. If you knew the nigga was gonna sell it, he wouldn't be hurt by it. Top 5 shouldn't have the owl chain. But maybe it's not top 5. This 28:15 hurt him. So whoever this person is like the lesser. I would never expect it from you You wouldn't thought that neither look he in track 1 With 28:23 this he telling all the shit that's bothering him I thought he was about to say some shit this nigga really he said you sold the chain Like that and then told me that I robbed over 28:31 having internal battles and external I'm having internal battles with my team and having all these niggas coming for my neck. That nigga probably had a fucked up 2 years, bro. 28:40 Oh yeah. Oh no, he had a fucked up 2 years. Yeah, I know. He definitely had a fucked up 2 years. And you start seeing who really on your team. Yeah, yeah. He had a fucked up 2 years. Yeah. Let me hear what happened with this damn 28:48 chain Nothing in this world seems coincidental Yeah Our brother sold his chain the other day and said that someone 28:56 snatched it I'm still close to snatching it I'm so distracted I think he's so desperate and our life is going fantastic He don't have the heart to come and tell 29:05 us he wanted the cash even his baby mama Drake 29:20 called that nigga baby, ma. The word. What happened to that chain? Hey, has he been acting weirdly lately? He good? Oh, 29:29 man. No, that's funny. That's funny. To me, he's the only thing that has ever mattered. I can never forget such an efferent action. I'm still giving 29:37 him my fair share. Yo, what the fuck? Yo, what the fuck? Yo, what the fuck? Yo, what the fuck? Yo, y'all gotta stop. No. Y'all gotta stop. You bugging. To give 29:45 such a nefarious act. It represents us. Oh, God. It does. Niggas sold an owl on the gray market. That's crazy. And he probably 29:53 got some money. He ain't even get what it was worth. Come on. He probably got a lot. He probably sold when the stock was high. He probably sold that shit before not like us. Not just 30:01 that, you know how much gold going for right now? Yeah.