The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 935 | No Reason To Be Humble

— [100:03.720 --> 100:12.260] weird. Pause, I was about to say pause! I wanted to say pause No, I got it Pause! Talking

— [100:12.260 --> 100:20.540] about his breath, heaven, we will take shit It just does It's just wild to see Dame go from interviews where he say talking about another man is Whatever

— [100:20.540 --> 100:28.740] he called it chatty patty patty. Oh, he called us more things that we won't say don't probably To do the exactly that that's all it

— [100:28.740 --> 100:36.900] is such a short time Right all of it is bad. This is bad, and he doesn't seem sober in interviews for me That's the thing that can there's actually the flag for me. He doesn't seem sober

— [100:36.900 --> 100:45.160] in the end And I feel like content makers and this is let me take it off the aim for a second I'm tired of seeing content where we get somebody get them on a couch or a chair

— [100:45.220 --> 100:53.640] load them up with alcohol You know give them a couple dollars. I don't know what them financial situations begin with couple dollars I know he doing it for free shouldn't and then watch them.

— [100:53.800 --> 101:02.160] It's the reality TV blueprint and hopefully damn sure Is the bad? I was loving hip-hop Oxygen but I will say in Defensive

— [101:02.200 --> 101:10.280] that with me when I first started podcasting to interviews with people people some people don't even sit down until they get something up in them. So like, I didn't

— [101:10.280 --> 101:18.660] even know to have alcohol because I don't drink. So I never knew to have alcohol at the podcast until some people that people love to watch would say,

— [101:18.740 --> 101:27.120] you gotta give me some Tito's before I talk and we gotta really get her saucy. That's a fact. Which is, that's because a lot of these people are performing, they're not being themselves

— [101:27.120 --> 101:35.280] so they gotta get into their little acting. I don't think that was a rap by the way. I think that was someone standing up in the background. No, no, no, no, that was a rat. It was a rat. That was a rat.

— [101:35.280 --> 101:43.300] It's slow-moted. Yeah, it was a rat. They put an arrow following him. It ran like a rat. He ran up. It's definitely not a person. It was a rat. It could be a small cat.

— [101:43.300 --> 101:53.760] It was an animal. It was a rat. I wouldn't work for it. It wasn't a rat. I'm going to show you the clip. It's crazy. Next time, we'll show you. Dame is a... This

— [101:53.760 --> 102:01.900] fall from grace is Sad to watch if you knew Dame if you were

— [102:01.900 --> 102:10.020] familiar with his Rockefeller, the dance, like all of this shit, looking at him now. Which listen, they killed me for my take on that Hov freestyle,

— [102:10.080 --> 102:18.160] but a big part of it was I believe a lot of the people he dissing are mentally not there. And Dane is 1

— [102:18.160 --> 102:26.160] of those people. Before your breath stinks, all of that, Dane for who we know him to be telling stories I think whole was trying

— [102:26.160 --> 102:34.300] to bag a leak like what? Like yeah, what are you doing dog? What do you that's outside of him beefing with cam or beefing with just any

— [102:34.300 --> 102:42.520] of the people that you know You major it looks away. It looks away. It's Yeah

— [102:42.960 --> 102:51.180] Like I can't watch nothing he do no more nothing no interview. Yeah, no podcast It ain't It ain't so entertaining to

— [102:51.180 --> 102:59.300] me to see him look, it's sad. Yeah, it's sad. I get it. I get it. 1000%. And Dame was 1 of the people

— [102:59.300 --> 103:07.320] for me, Like he's so smart that when you will see a Dame interview, you know it was gonna be some gems there. So I would run to it. It's like, I like hearing

— [103:07.320 --> 103:15.340] Dame talk. I like hearing 50 talk. Like certain people, they just. Who else? What other dudes? Not a lot.

— [103:15.560 --> 103:23.560] Dame, 50, I like Jay sometimes. Joe what? Joe. Who else? Joe Buttigieg. Kevin Samuels. Mark. Oh

— [103:23.560 --> 103:32.360] yeah, Kevin Samuels. Joe what? Mark is on that list for sure. Not with certain people, but again now- But no, Joe, but Joe as well though, right? No. So-

— [103:32.580 --> 103:40.720] Mode of what, letting him leave? It's Joe. No, I'm just saying like you don't tap into when he does other stuff or even hear you just

— [103:40.720 --> 103:48.760] like... Like you don't really care to hear the nigga talk. Like when he's on Clemson Street Show you will watch it. You know what I mean? He'll watch everything I do. Or like when he talked to Steve Mann that was a good 1 to

— [103:48.760 --> 103:58.180] Steve man That was a good 1. I didn't see Michael Gore. I didn't see any of them. You keep my notch No, the army nigga the sniper ball from the All

— [103:58.180 --> 104:06.280] right No, no, no I just but now to watch

— [104:06.280 --> 104:14.840] him go from, because I look at him like a hip hop great. You don't get the continuous point after you don't acknowledge Joe on the list. You didn't have to toss it back to him. Once

— [104:14.840 --> 104:22.860] he said Joe wasn't on the list, Look. It's bad to watch. Yeah. It's sad. It's sad. Promise me y'all won't

— [104:22.860 --> 104:30.960] come in here on Tuesdays and Fridays and put Dame on the board. How about that? Well, you see, I got up there. People I don't want to talk about anymore. Okay. And Dame

— [104:30.960 --> 104:39.060] is there. I have a list. Like, I'm looking at, not even talk about, I don't even want to see. Like I got Adrian Broner, I'm there. I don't want to see I can't if I see

— [104:39.060 --> 104:47.380] the name. I only want to click on it I don't I'm good now. I see you got Ray J up there. Yeah, that's another 1 I'm good at this point. What do you

— [104:47.380 --> 104:55.440] say that Ice? Because Ray J and Adrian Broder. Nobody cares. That's the point. Yes they do. No they don't. Millions of people care. I dark, that's not true. Can I say

— [104:55.440 --> 105:03.760] something? I feel like, cause we discussed Adrian Broder when it first went viral. Yeah. I feel like The eclipse don't make me sad anymore. It's almost like

— [105:03.840 --> 105:12.040] he's turning it around a little bit, because he's not as drunk in the newer eclipse. Because it's like, you got to take advantage of what you got. He's fat, he's not going to box,

— [105:12.040 --> 105:20.600] so now he's going to stream. You know what I mean? And he is kind of funny. He's a little entertaining. He's a little bit of an asshole. And it's another thing, sometimes I hate podcasters because

— [105:20.660 --> 105:28.900] it's like we're pretending like the addiction to watch the fall from grace is not a very American thing. The first thing I think about is Britney Spears smacking

— [105:28.900 --> 105:37.020] at people with umbrellas, shaving her head in front of millions of paparazzi because that's what we like to do here in this country We like to break you apart break you down to the ground and

— [105:37.020 --> 105:45.300] we love a good comeback story. That's what we do That's an American thing. Mr. Castors. So please get off your fucking pedestals We talk about Damien Adrian

— [105:45.540 --> 105:53.640] you can you can I don't care about neither 1 of them niggas all 3 that I wrote up this I guess you do what you wouldn't do it? Yeah, I think I think that's a misery

— [105:53.640 --> 106:02.120] loves company thing And I think that high up and common man be wanting them to be down there with them And so they root for and all off. I think that's

— [106:02.200 --> 106:10.460] disgusting I think and I think podcast is just want to make a bunch of bread off people and they don't care whether people are doing great, whether they're doing bad, they wanna exploit

— [106:10.460 --> 106:18.500] all of that and I hate that. I ain't gonna lie, I'm going to resist putting Dame Dash on the board because I don't

— [106:18.500 --> 106:26.600] want to watch, I don't like people's misery. I don't like that. But I'm attracted to the story. Like I literally was up at 2 a.m. Today

— [106:26.600 --> 106:34.620] watching, 1 of the things I was watching on YouTube was DeRay J, Adrienne Broner clash. See I'm at the point where, like I said, if I even

— [106:34.620 --> 106:42.640] see the name, I don't want to click no more. I've seen enough to where it's not going to entertain me. Really? Well, I mean,

— [106:42.640 --> 106:50.880] I was going to say, just on a different note, does Cardi versus Lato entertain y'all? Not necessarily entertain it. They must have turned them names in. Film

— [106:51.540 --> 106:59.980] here. I was going to ask y'all where y'all stood on that. Who's side are y'all on in that? I like that we talk about the big issues of the day out here, you know what I mean?

— [106:59.980 --> 107:08.140] Yeah, like fuck all the other boys, what's up with Lato and Cardi? Word. Lato's album, she dissed Cardi on

— [107:08.140 --> 107:16.260] the album. She's sucking up to that 1. And... Are we sure she dissed on the album? Yes, she copped to it. They asked, She did an interview, I

— [107:16.260 --> 107:24.820] believe it was at Breakfast Club somewhere, and they asked her where you did the card. Yes, I was. So now, right, right, so, since

— [107:24.820 --> 107:32.860] she tells the story, listen, I was pregnant, Cardi calls me to do the early time remix that was dropping right after her album dropped

— [107:32.860 --> 107:41.000] when they really you know do like a deluxe a couple days later shit yeah I did that I did it for you no problem then that's when the phone call came out the

— [107:41.000 --> 107:49.060] leak phone call where she was she could see I ain't pussy like Lado or something like that so a lot of like yo I thought we was friends. I thought we

— [107:49.060 --> 107:57.860] was cool. So for me to see that I'm like oh this is where we at now. She said it took her 2

— [107:57.860 --> 108:06.100] months before Cardi reached out to her. She said we were on a texting basis. You didn't reach out to me for 2 months. You reached out to my sister,

— [108:06.100 --> 108:14.400] you reached out to my manager, but you didn't reach out to me for 2 months. At that point, I don't want to talk no more. I get that. I understand that too. That's reasonable.

— [108:14.680 --> 108:23.200] Everything sounds reasonable. I mean, now Cardi may have a different version. So Carti did Carti then heard that and she issued a long statement on, X

— [108:23.200 --> 108:31.240] if somebody pulled up when I read it, but she basically, if you, you get it, I'll summarize. She was saying, I understand how you feel.

— [108:32.280 --> 108:41.480] Basically it was like an, I apologize. I didn't, I wasn't trying to go there. I was emotional, I understand. I wasn't trying to diss you. But

— [108:41.480 --> 108:49.540] I do get the whole, if you felt that, well why take 2 months to reach out to me? This don't sound like a Cardi verse Lado thing. It's not sound like Lado just right It is that

— [108:49.540 --> 108:57.700] would you just describe? Yeah, well if Cardi's cop into it then saying we have an accountability So so are you happy of course? Yeah? No, he's gonna get all right

— [108:57.700 --> 109:05.860] let me read it. How are you? So look at these chicken I truly understand how you feel and that's

— [109:05.860 --> 109:13.980] exactly why I chose to apologize publicly because the disrespect became public. On that call, I didn't even mean to call you that.

— [109:14.120 --> 109:22.320] I didn't mean any harm. There's a difference in what I said versus what I meant. What I could have said was you were too forgiving and gave

— [109:22.320 --> 109:30.480] too much mercy in that situation. But it was a heated conversation and I let my mouth get the best of me. When the call came out, I was 8 months

— [109:30.480 --> 109:38.900] pregnant, had just released my album, and was extremely overwhelmed and emotional. That's not to excuse what I said, but to let you know where I was in my head.

— [109:39.080 --> 109:47.120] I genuinely felt bad about what happened. In 2025 and 26, I made multiple attempts to connect. I spoke with your manager,

— [109:47.140 --> 109:55.240] your sister, even text you directly to take full responsibility. I always had love and respect for you. Always wanted to make it right, but making it right

— [109:55.240 --> 110:03.260] looks different for the both of us. I wanted to connect with you, but you wanted to address it on your album." End quote. Listen, I think

— [110:03.260 --> 110:11.380] it's a... I'm sorry, I think it's like squeezing a beef. I have been in that situation where I'm talking shit and popping

— [110:11.380 --> 110:19.540] it and then somebody... I did that to Mandy. I said I would beat Mandy up and I didn't mean that. You know what I mean? Why don't you say it? I was mad

— [110:19.540 --> 110:27.560] about something else that I just I've beaten the dead horse Like I'm not I'm not pussy. I'm gonna talk about you know me But it's like at this point like I'm looking upset So it's

— [110:27.560 --> 110:35.700] like not to even bring back all the old shit up, but I'm talking about this person. I'm saying I will smack the shit out this person. And then I said, I mean, it's literally almost

— [110:35.700 --> 110:43.980] exact same thing, Cardi, because such and such Mandy, I'll smack Mandy too. It went just like that. And it's like, I like Mandy. Mandy

— [110:43.980 --> 110:52.020] has always been kind to me. So it's like, it's wrong. I publicly apologize. I sent that bitch hours cuz that's what you do Do I feel in my heart to be

— [110:52.020 --> 111:00.040] mean I feel like I could beat y'all that's just me I'm from North, you know me but into the day she had nothing to do with what was going on and it was wrong I feel

— [111:00.040 --> 111:08.380] like a lot of shit that we see in all this drama that get drawn out and dragged out is just because grown people can't come out and say yo I was wrong. Now

— [111:08.440 --> 111:16.660] when Lado told it like oh it was 2 months I can feel that because bitch it didn't take you too much to get around right to get to me right but at the same

— [111:16.660 --> 111:24.940] time you was being a pussy That's why she called you pussy ass Lado, because you was carrying like a pussy. That's just the truth. So it's like, I feel like it's not that deep

— [111:25.780 --> 111:34.040] and Lado can decide, I don't want nothing to do with that. But to me, the way Cardi handled, that's how you're supposed to handle it. I agree with that. As long as she didn't really take 2 months if taking

— [111:34.040 --> 111:42.240] 2 months is a little Like now nobody she said y'all took 2 months I was 8 months pregnant my album had just dropped so life was life in and I'm still apologetic for

— [111:42.240 --> 111:50.400] taking 2 months Don't take 2 months to apologize to me. Don't take 2 months. I'm telling Lotto also said on the breakfast club interview that when

— [111:50.400 --> 111:58.700] it when it happened she was pregnant Mmm, that Lado herself was pregnant when you was calling me a pussy in all this shit So whatever you were going through

— [111:58.700 --> 112:06.900] I think in today's society My nigga apologies matter and I think accountability is 1 of the biggest attributes

— [112:06.900 --> 112:15.020] somebody has. So, if I'm publicly saying yo, I apologize to you. I **** you. I'm trying to mend our friendship. I think that that **** matters, bro.

— [112:15.060 --> 112:23.300] It does. I think I think accountability is a big character floor. You gotta look into that word. True. Really. True. Oh, Another thing she did say on the breakfast club

— [112:23.300 --> 112:31.520] was that she would be open to having a conversation. That's what Lato said. So, I took from that. If you saying I'm open to

— [112:31.520 --> 112:39.520] have a conversation, and Even if it was 2 months afterwards she reached out to you to have a conversation This sounds like I wanted to get

— [112:39.520 --> 112:47.980] that this off no matter what yeah That's what it sounds like because prior to the record coming out she reached out to you Well, I think she's saying

— [112:48.040 --> 112:57.340] I was pregnant when you were not after me I want to get my public this back. That's what it looks you know, I Gotta

— [112:57.340 --> 113:05.440] get my But did she diss her or now she didn't diss her cheek when when I went it's just says you probably just I'm gonna

— [113:05.440 --> 113:13.440] public This back a leak calls not a public this, You know what I mean? It's a leak call, bro. But like Cardi said, it became public, so. It's still public though. Right, and I get that, but I'm just saying, make it

— [113:13.440 --> 113:21.700] clear. I feel like what Cardi said, that thing that Joey just read, I think that's exactly right. You knew you wanted to pop it on your album, so that's

— [113:21.700 --> 113:29.760] why you didn't respond when I reached out whether it was 2 months or 2 weeks, you feel me? That was the whole thing, because I knew I wanted to get at you on this album. But 1 don't negate the other. I could talk to you

— [113:29.760 --> 113:37.880] and still go pop it on my album. Exactly, that's how I feel. Why are you ignoring me just to say you'll have a conversation yeah that's the part where it got a little tricky for me. Pussy

— [113:37.880 --> 113:45.880] shit but whatever. Yeah I fuck with Cardi's stance on this. I think Cardi was 100% wrong with what she did and she was 100%

— [113:45.880 --> 113:54.340] right with how she handled it. She owned it. I think that's fine. I respect that. Even how she worded the letter cuz you know Cardi could get that she worded the letter with sincerity

— [113:54.560 --> 114:02.880] and Seems genuine. I think that's fine. Don't leak my phone call. I'm telling y'all now Don't leave me. I'm telling you

— [114:07.240 --> 114:15.960] Not but Joe Shmoe from back home. From North. From North. That's my boy here. Yeah

— [114:15.960 --> 114:24.060] that's extra. They're gonna drag it out. It's gonna be like a 10-minute thing when it's not this easy. I think it's hard to drag it out when the other person apologizes. Yeah, sure. I think 90% of shit will be

— [114:24.060 --> 114:32.160] resolved fast and easy if somebody just says, I'm sorry. That's the problem. Niggas don't want to apologize, especially not publicly. Niggas don't want to apologize. Yeah. It looks like it looks like that.

— [114:32.160 --> 114:40.740] We're gonna stay tuned and see what happens at the end of this Oh, we'll stay tuned You know Joe another thing I'm staying tuned to is Steph

— [114:40.740 --> 114:51.220] Curry's new deal. Yeah Improving on its way Yo,

— [114:51.220 --> 115:03.000] but this deal is amazing. Oh, please don't

— [115:03.000 --> 115:11.240] believe none of these deals about nobody Let me just get my take out the way so y'all can have fun with all 4 I don't believe not a word of that shit.

— [115:11.240 --> 115:19.240] What do you think it really is? Yeah, I'll just Sham and it's 10 years. Okay, the last 1 was a lifetime deal.

— [115:19.240 --> 115:28.020] He got out of it. And he alive. That is true. And he's alive. Fair. Okay, well then I'll salute you, Steph Curry. Steph

— [115:28.020 --> 115:36.600] Curry, I'm gonna buy me a pair of Japanese knee-lings just so I could toss them shits out of a moving vehicle on a highway The

— [115:36.600 --> 115:44.620] knee lens answer. It's the same thing as the car recently goes away. Oh for it. Oh, okay. They like I'm not trying to be funny,

— [115:44.620 --> 116:08.280] but it Yeah, yeah, I didn't answer knee ling is the parent company I think I'm

— [116:08.280 --> 116:16.860] talking about eat He didn't know it was somebody that popped his head out the door. I believe that he was wrong. Right. You usually do. I'm talking about E, asshole. Yeah, we're not wearing them fucking knee-lings. We're

— [116:16.860 --> 116:24.860] not wearing the knee-lings, dawg. I'm wearing the knee-lings. You're not wearing the knee-lings. No, I'm not wearing them. We are going to salute Black men. Steph Curry might not wear

— [116:24.860 --> 116:32.880] the knee-lings. Why though? Why would you not wear them? Huh? Why would you not wear them? Huh? Why would you not wear? Oh cuz I don't wear them. You don't know what they look like I do know what they I've seen him ish. What are you took?

— [116:32.880 --> 116:41.160] I'm saying but if niggas gonna roll out a ten-year sneaker you gonna know what all 10 years gonna look like you just saying, it's like somebody saying, y'all, I'm wearing Jordans. All Jordans

— [116:41.160 --> 116:49.340] look different. Okay. Salute to Steph, salute to your sneakers. Support black business, support black people. Steph is just

— [116:49.340 --> 116:57.640] stealing money at this point. Yo, and at the tail end of my career, if a nigga wanna come through, offer

— [116:57.640 --> 117:06.060] me 400 Michaels for 10 years. I said I ain't mad at them now. And they branching off into a golf line. Where do you see me the last 3 months of this deal? They branching off into like a golf line.

— [117:06.600 --> 117:14.760] Oh, I thought you started that already. Okay. And they rewarded you somehow. All right,

— [117:14.760 --> 117:24.100] check your man out. It's set. This is bigger than a shootin' deal, bigger than the signature series. This

— [117:24.980 --> 117:33.160] is the partnership of a lifetime. Oh my god. Shut the fuck up. The future of Curry brand will be powered by a company truly rooted in sports and

— [117:33.160 --> 117:41.280] innovation. That's what told me this was a bull. A partner dedicated to creating quality products with sneakers that I believe in. Oh, yeah. And will continue

— [117:41.280 --> 117:49.360] to deliver at the highest level. The future of Curry Brand is with Lee Ning. And

— [117:49.360 --> 117:57.440] it starts with Mr. Lee Ning. Yo, when I tell y'all he announced that like LeBron at the boys club. He dropped taking my talents. You don't need to drop the beat

— [117:57.440 --> 118:05.900] out for Ni Lang. The future of the who's even asking about where the future to curry brand is gonna live

— [118:06.600 --> 118:15.060] Don't know about that 100000000 how up there that Highest

— [118:16.500 --> 118:24.820] The future of curry brand is with Lee Ning. You put some reverb on your voice to say Lee Ning.

— [118:24.820 --> 118:33.080] Get him the fuck out of here. I see you fed up that bitch. I see what you did. I love Steph Curry, but he's a grifter. You can kind of see it though. He was teasing all it wearing

— [118:33.080 --> 118:41.140] all the different sneakers wearing Nike wearing me But like he was doing that shit in the man the answer shit No, I'm wearing everything and the question was where's he going? Where's he

— [118:41.140 --> 118:49.240] gonna? He was trying to build anticipation so

— [118:49.240 --> 118:57.340] that people want to know what's the move. And that's all that rose that price up. Hey, you got the nerve to announce this shit while the Knicks is in the finals,

— [118:57.340 --> 119:05.480] nigga. If you don't take these newlings, the fuck out of here, nigga. So disrespectful. You know, somebody's in the finals and they got a good endorsement deal or non-deal and that's Victor Wimbenyama. His agent

— [119:05.480 --> 119:13.480] came out today and was like, or the other day and said, he's never taking a soda deal. That they've offered him millions of dollars to endorse these different soft drinks and he won't do

— [119:13.480 --> 119:21.500] it because he doesn't want to harm the kids. And I think that that's dope. That's the reason why I want Wimby to win. I just- That's the reason. I mean, it's

— [119:21.500 --> 119:29.520] another reason. I just hate this number 1. But number 2 is I really like Wimby Nyama. He's my next star. But I like the idea that somebody saying, no matter how

— [119:29.520 --> 119:37.560] much money you give me, I'm not going to do something to do harm to kids man. I think that's dope. I mean it is dope It's also a privilege that you have when you when you

— [119:37.560 --> 119:45.880] hit the NBA right as the salary cap Reaches 700 billion. He's gonna make 1000000000 dollars just playing basketball exactly so

— [119:45.880 --> 119:53.960] he can say today he can pick and choose. Yeah, I mean so come most of them I don't think so. It's like if you make a 40 50 million a

— [119:53.960 --> 120:02.240] year from basketball plus your other endorsements You don't got to take a sprite commercial The other endorsements yet like for example, Brian didn't have them other ones sprite was

— [120:02.240 --> 120:10.240] 1 of the first sprite in Nike Brian signed 100000000 dollar deal in high school. He got a Sprite deal early on too. Like, I mean, right around

— [120:10.240 --> 120:18.780] then. Yep, I'm just saying, like, I just think it's, once you get to a certain level, you don't have to do that. I think it's admirable that he ain't just go everything for the spanky. Because

— [120:18.780 --> 120:26.800] they only targeting the top of the top athletes anyway. Right, he's still in the rookie deal. And when you have the risk of injury and all those other things, a lot of people are going to sign

— [120:26.800 --> 120:34.860] the biggest deal they can early on, and he's still in that stage. I mean, rookie deal for a number 1 pick. Yeah, but still not what he's going to have in 3 years or 5 years

— [120:34.860 --> 120:43.000] or so many states helped him. In the 90s a lot of athletes had to supplement the income with endorsement. Sure for sure. Because it wasn't but so much money. The endorsement money was more than

— [120:43.000 --> 120:51.280] their salaries. For sure. Salute to Wimby though. Maybe he can endorse for your team. Any type of weight gainer. After he wins the championship, I think a

— [120:51.280 --> 121:00.260] lot of opportunities are going to come. So let's see him in 2 weeks. Yo, I want my money in nickels. I want

— [121:00.260 --> 121:08.460] it in nickels. You feel him? Yeah, for sure. What else, what else, what else, what else, what else is important unimportant?

— [121:09.960 --> 121:18.260] Nobody talked about this Ricky child situation They fuck this gas station up Yeah,

— [121:18.340 --> 121:26.400] you got it right Ricky child ladies and gentlemen is the gas is the store owner. Yeah, the store that's connected to

— [121:26.400 --> 121:34.540] a gas station in Columbia, South Carolina, who the young the young black kid went in there let me get his

— [121:34.540 --> 121:42.980] name because this is important rest in peace to him Cyrus Cyrus

— [121:43.160 --> 121:51.440] Carmack Belton Carmack Belton is the young dude who went in there. He went over there by where the waters

— [121:51.600 --> 121:59.760] were the Ricky Chow and his family son thought and the wife was in it too. The whole family was in it. The son of my

— [121:59.760 --> 122:07.800] whole family thought that he was stealing something so when when when he got out of there the son followed

— [122:07.800 --> 122:16.040] him the son followed him at some point son and dad follow him Joe but the dad is making it sound

— [122:16.040 --> 122:24.180] like he was following his son. Right. Oh. That was the lie. Okay, that's a lie though. Yeah, we don't believe that. But the son ran

— [122:24.180 --> 122:32.780] after him. Ricky Chow says he ran after his son to protect him from the young black kid who was running away from a situation. He

— [122:32.780 --> 122:40.860] was running so fast, the story is that he tripped and fell. The details get murky about whether a weapon, his weapon, because he had a gun on him,

— [122:40.860 --> 122:48.980] fell. But Ricky Chow's son screams, gun, allegedly. And that's when... The father shoots him in the

— [122:48.980 --> 122:57.280] fall. Yeah Things that think I think people need to know they might not know Ricky child the old man He's involved with 2 other shooters

— [122:57.540 --> 123:05.940] 2015 in 2018. Okay, I'm just speaking of what I know right 250 to 18 both times He is not arrested or charged

— [123:06.040 --> 123:14.280] right and his claim is they stole and they threatened my life So 1 guy steals threatens his life He shoots up the car 6 times into

— [123:14.280 --> 123:22.280] the car Another time somebody steals and threatens his life and he shoots them in that case nobody of course He doesn't get arrested But the guy who stole

— [123:22.280 --> 123:30.440] woke up in hospital got charged for whatever he stole whatever Another hugely important part the boy ain't still nothing they They claim

— [123:30.440 --> 123:38.560] he stole a water and they find him with no water. That's a fact. Now then it's like all this discussion about did he have any money? He walked around the store, he didn't have

— [123:38.560 --> 123:46.640] money to buy anything anyway. It's just foolish. If you watch the cameras, when the boy walks in, the first thing they say to him is, hey, you know you gotta put that book back

— [123:46.640 --> 123:56.880] down because they must have that kind of rule in my opinion with stores Have no kind of rules. They already show what type of time they are. Okay for sure. I have Okay,

— [123:57.080 --> 124:05.140] they actually put the book back on he shops He goes to small gas station up 1 out there 1 out up 1 out the gas station is clear Mom watches him foot to

— [124:05.140 --> 124:13.200] foot if you ever saw menace to society when a lady is sweeping around him, that's exactly what mom does to this little boy. So the fact

— [124:13.200 --> 124:21.420] that they say that he stole something after you watched him like a mother and it was no other customers. It just feels like you just wanted to plow

— [124:21.420 --> 124:30.080] somebody down to murder them, especially when you have been involved in so many shootings and not gotten in trouble for any of them. So you think you, you think you tough on it. You are, you totally are.

— [124:30.640 --> 124:38.960] It's disgusting. I feel like, like I was talking about the other day For me, I'm from North Philly. My first racial interactions were with Asians.

— [124:38.960 --> 124:47.040] I never lived around white people to have a white person call me a n***a. My first interaction with a white person to have a racial interaction was being bussed from North

— [124:47.040 --> 124:55.320] Philly up to Northeast to a better neighborhood to go to school, which is like a common thing. But before that, my interactions were with agents that just act like they hated

— [124:55.320 --> 125:03.580] me, even though I frequented their stores every day. We talking about laundromats, Chinese stores where it's food, and just convenience

— [125:03.580 --> 125:11.580] stores. We go get you every little bit of everything in the ghetto where that's where your epicenter of everything is, this store. Never no love, ain't nobody picture

— [125:11.580 --> 125:19.940] up in the wall. And it ain't, hey mom, this is what you grow up and she still give, hurry up and buy, get the fuck out of here now And that's been my experience

— [125:20.000 --> 125:28.340] from the interstate from Philadelphia So it's interesting because didn't the blacks and Asians help each other escape and hide and all this

— [125:30.740 --> 125:38.800] We've helped the agents I think time and time again black people show up for these different causes, black people show up and represent for the minorities. We would

— [125:38.800 --> 125:46.860] be tighter if we were closer, but what I notice is, is this proximity to white thing where Asians feel like, okay, it's white people,

— [125:46.860 --> 125:55.200] then me, and then y'all. And I feel better to be able to say, oh, look at y'all. And the funny thing about that is a white man will never accept an Asian person anyway.

— [125:55.200 --> 126:03.320] So it's almost like a joke. You know what I mean? Like, you chase behind these white people to get this approval that you'll never get all the while being

— [126:03.320 --> 126:11.600] real fucked up to the people that you really should be rocking with because we you know we're minorities. The funny thing about it I thought that the prosecutor in this case

— [126:11.600 --> 126:19.900] he did great was killing he did. You know what they fucked up? I thought he was absolutely well. He said hold up for a second he said he

— [126:19.900 --> 126:28.180] said well what is your protocol when somebody steals? Say oh we got pictures that we hang on the wall and then we ban them from the store.

— [126:28.940 --> 126:36.980] So we're the fuck sending your kid to go follow this kid. They played some audio of the son

— [126:37.820 --> 126:45.840] sounding like he was gang gang murder murder. Got 1. Yeah, so when he took the stand, they was on him about cold switching. Why do

— [126:45.840 --> 126:53.940] you sound like this here, like the innocent scared, but in this, you sound like N.W.A. Like I thought that they were making so many

— [126:53.940 --> 127:02.060] just poignant points. Great ones. And I can't believe that that was the outcome. That's where I'm at. I'm not surprised. I mean, at the end of the day,

— [127:03.480 --> 127:11.640] the victim being black changes everything. I can't imagine a white kid laying on the ground doesn't

— [127:11.640 --> 127:19.940] result in a guilty verdict. I also can't imagine a black store owner doesn't result in a black person.

— [127:19.940 --> 127:28.120] Unfortunately, people think black lives are disposable. And so it's always easy to believe against all evidence to the contrary that this black kid was about to kill

— [127:28.120 --> 127:36.240] somebody. Even though there's no evidence he was shooting anybody, no evidence that he was pointing a gun at anybody. She was seen on the other side with the black kid that's in jail now for

— [127:36.240 --> 127:44.540] murder of the white people at the school. Come on, Anthony. Yeah, when he went over there and tried to bully them and then whatever. The problem was,

— [127:45.060 --> 127:53.140] And some people are saying they think it's intentional. They didn't charge them with the right crime. So what happened was they charged them with murder. To get

— [127:53.140 --> 128:01.440] a murder conviction, you gotta have motive and intent, which means that these people intended to kill. They should have charged them with first degree manslaughter And they would have got a conviction

— [128:01.500 --> 128:09.560] they charge them with murder is what they do to the cops They they charge these cops with murder and knowing that you can't possibly win a murder conviction Because you

— [128:09.560 --> 128:17.620] need those 2 things to stick to get a murder instead of charging them with manslaughter or wrongful death like that where you gonna get it, they didn't charge him

— [128:17.620 --> 128:25.680] with the manslaughter and shit like that. And some people are saying they did that shit intentionally. That make sense. Who did it? It makes a lot of sense. The

— [128:25.680 --> 128:33.720] prosecutor. So that they wouldn't. So you saying the prosecutor was kicking ass, but you know you kicking ass, You can't get the murder. This is all a farce. I don't think they did it on purpose,

— [128:33.720 --> 128:41.740] but I think they're overconfident and they underestimate how racism works. Because, I mean, the kind of zealous... What'd you say? Especially in South Carolina.

— [128:41.740 --> 128:49.760] Especially in South Carolina. I think they just thought wrong. I mean, I'm not against the possibility. I've seen people get overcharged on purpose for sure. I don't think this is an example of

— [128:49.760 --> 128:57.960] that But I think you're right they do it sometimes overcharged knowing that they can't meet the burden So that the person can get off but they still look like they did everything that they could everything that they could I hate

— [128:58.920 --> 129:06.960] At the end of that case, I'm sorry for you normally at the end of that case They are able to a if you don't get him on this you we are

— [129:06.960 --> 129:15.300] gonna add These other charges and see what y'all think about these right? But you can add lesser charges, but at some point you have to make a decision Did this person have a premeditated

— [129:15.420 --> 129:23.560] thought or not this person have a mens rea criminal mind or not. And so the manslaughter and murder things don't go together, but sometimes you get people for possession, reckless and dangerous, you

— [129:23.560 --> 129:31.860] can get a whole list of other things to charge them for. What do you say to the instances where, let's say they do charge, There's been times where

— [129:31.920 --> 129:40.180] a manslaughter is charged and then there's public outcry of no, y'all are charging him with something lesser, y'all are being soft. That's the other side of it.

— [129:40.180 --> 129:48.420] And prosecutors tend to try to root for you if they think you're guilty. I think that that's a really important point that if they had charged him for that and they got found guilty and the guy got 5 years.

— [129:48.520 --> 129:56.520] Then they'd be like, this is all your life. Slap on the wrist or some shit like that. So it's a tough thing to navigate. Especially when you, Latasha Harleen. That's a great

— [129:56.520 --> 130:04.680] example. RIP Latasha Harleen, little girl in LA, in California in the 90s. It's the same fucking story over and over. Or even, and

— [130:04.680 --> 130:12.720] I don't know if everybody has experienced going and giving somebody your money, and them being nasty to you, and you continuously doing so,

— [130:12.720 --> 130:20.840] because that's just where you get, you know what I mean? That's the only shit I had. That's the only thing you got. So it's like, dare I say it, I'm not shocked at all that

— [130:20.840 --> 130:29.040] Ricky Chow murdered somebody He was just on his fucking way It's like it feels playing to me you just waiting on to see which kill you can get it off They don't think

— [130:29.040 --> 130:37.040] because you hate us and it's the thing they hate us and they live amongst us, so that s*** is built. No, no, they don't live amongst us. Well, no, they work amongst us. They have their businesses.

— [130:37.120 --> 130:45.500] Excuse me. Thank you for that. That's the important distinction. Because in North Philly, growing up, before the Bodegas came, they were all Korean. Unfortunately, we call them Chinese stores, but they were Korean-owned grocery stores.

— [130:45.500 --> 130:53.520] And I ain't never seen a Korean person in my neighborhood. I know but every store I used to go to was Korea. Oh, that's why I don't support that Yeah, I'm what do you mean

— [130:53.520 --> 131:05.380] when you say you don't support it like I haven't eaten like Chinese food I

— [131:05.380 --> 131:13.540] don't support their businesses in our hood. I don't go to their companies. I don't buy nothing from them because when you go around, you know how back when we was playing

— [131:13.540 --> 131:21.580] like football and basketball as kids, you go around to the local businesses and try to get boosted money and shit like that. They

— [131:21.580 --> 131:29.920] never give you money, ever. But they'll come to our communities, they'll sell us shit whether it be hair products, weed, liquor,

— [131:30.840 --> 131:38.960] Chinese food, all of that shit, and then they'll go move, take all our bread, close up, They feed you behind a fuck thick ass bulletproof glass Which is insulting and then they

— [131:38.960 --> 131:47.080] take our bread and go live in a communities and they don't give nothing back to our community I want to point out that you speaking about your experience. Yes

— [131:47.080 --> 131:55.440] thousand percent I just want to highlight that because in Jersey City the Chinese stores they took care of the community. All right,

— [131:55.520 --> 132:03.580] that's my experience. They was on some of the roughest blocks. That store couldn't even been there If they weren't so nice and kind and gave

— [132:03.580 --> 132:11.580] they bought the candy when they donated to cause so I just want to be But that might be a I can't speak to

— [132:11.580 --> 132:19.920] their sincerity, but that just might be politics to stay open in the neighborhood I can live with the politics though. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, but I'm saying is and our neighborhoods them

— [132:19.920 --> 132:28.060] niggas didn't do shit Yeah, so as a result, I have The ability to dictate where I spend my money and I want to spend my money. I respect

— [132:28.060 --> 132:36.200] it I feel like I also feel like because I remember Over what's fully 60 if it's something that around it that Chinese to around it They call

— [132:36.200 --> 132:44.480] her mom like lovingly. And my daughter was little, that's her dad's name, and she would call him mom. And going in there and that experience, it was so unique, my mouth was dropped because I had never

— [132:44.480 --> 132:52.620] experienced an older Asian lady that had been in the neighborhood that long that the people call her mom and she loves them. That's how fucking different it was from what you... That's what I'm

— [132:52.620 --> 133:01.040] saying about our Chinese joint on Claremont and Westside. Nigga, you ain't even have to ask them for extra sauce or nothing. All that shit was going extra chicken,

— [133:01.060 --> 133:09.340] rice, this, baby. And in our hoods... Knew all the kids first, the bag, they knew the killers first. They all come on, fuck. No duck sauce. You had to pay.

— [133:09.560 --> 133:17.600] Like, is Matt, like yo, you can't, you got 4 dinners. They gonna give you 1 napkin per dinner Like that like so my experiences and

— [133:17.600 --> 133:30.820] I lived in a bunch of different communities and it's always been the same With regards to my experience It's

— [133:30.820 --> 133:39.040] the same thing in the nail-ery like the people in there Oh, yeah, and it's that close that you touch me you massage me and you are there by me And then there's the

— [133:39.040 --> 133:47.140] salon the Nelson No salon we say Nellie

— [133:47.360 --> 133:55.780] I know I dropped out is that a word I didn't know oh now this nigga wanna play games somebody look at the fuck up I don't care if it's a word it's a word today what I'm saying

— [133:56.240 --> 134:04.540] in the nail sign no seriously in the nail sign you got that closeness cuz this lady's doing your nails every week like she hates you like she don't want to touch you

— [134:04.540 --> 134:12.720] on top of the fact that Obviously talking about you because you don't speak this language So you say something you pull out your grandma rusty ass foot now

— [134:12.720 --> 134:20.760] She say something to the girl back now the whole salon laugh And then you think They talk about you cuz they are better be careful now boy that translator boy. I'll be sitting here recording your

— [134:20.760 --> 134:28.780] voice Yeah, you ain't gotta do that Airpod do that shit on the spot in the meadows do it the medicine I have to and it's our talking is

— [134:28.780 --> 134:36.900] speaking English We can make light of it all they want me personally as a mother of black sons I'm tired of watching people just kill and get away with it and if the

— [134:36.900 --> 134:45.040] reason why I'm so upset about the Ricky Chow thing is because I purposely don't watch the court cases because they went so much so I don't watch it but this I caught that

— [134:45.040 --> 134:53.160] Prosecutor live and so they got it this man. Yeah, he was cooking I didn't know upsetting just just

— [134:53.160 --> 135:01.180] the last time with community justice though. I ain't gonna hold you real shit Hey the courts could they could run a shit they could run a business Have it ain't want to run it because

— [135:01.180 --> 135:09.340] it is indeed a business, but y'all you're gonna have your business dead smack in the middle with a hood Act like that and

— [135:09.340 --> 135:17.360] then commits to just going on about your know That ain't gonna happen like that's like that. That's like the fuck When the kid was running away in

— [135:17.360 --> 135:25.560] the Bronx from the fucking members and he went in the in the in the both Rest of the people and they put him out. Yeah. Yeah. No y'all

— [135:25.560 --> 135:34.540] can't be here no more No, I was gonna take it there like even I mean in our neighborhoods. It wasn't that much different with the bodegas. A

— [135:34.540 --> 135:42.540] lot of motherfuckers treated these black kids like dog shit. A lot of them treated us like dog shit. I've had loving relationships though with Poppy. I stole

— [135:42.540 --> 135:50.700] my first butterscotch Crippet from Poppy on Rising Sun. And poppy walked up and smacked me in the back of my head and I never even told because it felt like he looked Any like I was

— [135:50.700 --> 135:59.120] his kid and I did still the crib it to be honest. I used to love me I'm gonna put a picture put in my back pocket free so it could be nice and warm

— [136:00.200 --> 136:08.840] Why ain't ain't nobody knows About

— [136:09.414 --> 136:17.720] now though What ain't nobody knows why you be calling her every fucking second

— [136:17.720 --> 136:25.800] now on her dick. What about now? Don't talk about back in the day. I'm so glad. That's what it look like right now. Yeah sip your little tea boy. You better sip that. You

— [136:25.800 --> 136:34.280] see shit looking. You see what it look like over here now. I didn't even face it. Yes you did. Yes you did. Yes you did. You did. Yeah yeah. You see all his body. Yeah.

— [136:35.140 --> 136:43.260] This guy's nuts. Where's my camera? That shit looking like something. Sitting on it. To somebody that doesn't work with you. Yeah, you gotta be cool. All jokes

— [136:43.260 --> 136:51.500] aside, it's upsetting. I'm tired of marching, I'm not with that shit. Y'all wanna crunk with the police, hit the name with the police, fuck that. It's time to get violent, black people.

— [136:52.260 --> 137:00.260] Well, 1 thing we can do is. So what are they doing to the stones? Another thought, in addition, I'm not negating anything y'all just said but just we got a we got a buy our own

— [137:00.260 --> 137:08.420] and control our own This only happens in our community. There's no way that in every neighborhood, every hood we offer these different experiences

— [137:08.500 --> 137:16.580] and everybody shares 1 thing in common, which is we didn't own the stores in our neighborhood. No 1 knows how to do nails in some special secret way. Nobody knows how to sell

— [137:16.580 --> 137:24.600] tasty cakes in some special series secret wages. You know the other side to that though we gotta support our own when we do that's what I'm talking about what happens is

— [137:24.600 --> 137:32.620] n**** get a store and now you want the hook up now you want this for free now you don't want to pay them now yeah now it's too expensive because we own it.

— [137:32.620 --> 137:40.740] I remember when the first black owned hair salon, shout out to Salon Brilliant on 22nd Street open, it was hair supply. Because they are

— [137:40.740 --> 137:48.740] the top of black hair. That makes no sense. 0. Don't wear it, don't have friends that wear it. That's who you come to and say

— [137:48.740 --> 137:56.860] who do you think I should wish I do? When I want 2 ponytails and I want the first it doesn't even make any sense But I think it would never happen the other way around In the Chinatown

— [137:56.940 --> 138:05.080] soul food store in Chinatown See see how long you won't even get a leash You even worse a Chinese food in China. They said black, like that's true too. But

— [138:05.080 --> 138:13.080] again, they not having to go to little Italy and set up your soulful shop and see what happens. It's only us. My nigga, it's only us. It's

— [138:13.080 --> 138:21.260] just, and you know what I was noticing y'all on Tik Tok? Like, because of course it starts this big race debate right so this agent guy goes viral because he says

— [138:21.260 --> 138:29.460] I hear you black people saying because some people were saying don't support no agent business I don't give a fuck what it is don't go back people weren't just saying not go to that game station people were saying and

— [138:29.460 --> 138:38.400] that agent guy came out and said well well where you expect to get your liquor from or your fake hair from and it's like everything He listed was terrible things Our

— [138:38.400 --> 138:46.520] neighborhood is bad alcohol and fake hair and all this other shit But I kept noticing kids being in the comments like younger people say so

— [138:46.520 --> 138:54.520] like why do y'all hate us That shit was making me so sad. Like little black kids asking some random white creator, Asian creator, well, why do you hate us in the

— [138:54.520 --> 139:02.600] first place? Like, he's like, where you gonna get your Nikes? Where you going? I'm saying it. Where you gonna get your this from? He's all- The jurors too, like Michael Jordan is an Asian man. He was

— [139:02.600 --> 139:10.680] saying all that shit, but knows the crazy part the fact that He kind of had a leg to stand on saying that

— [139:10.680 --> 139:19.740] ignorant shit Why because overwhelmingly the businesses that he named dominate our neighborhood, but you know why though? So

— [139:19.740 --> 139:27.900] why he got a latest statement? He don't know why. He don't know that it might come in from this country from somewhere else, they get better loans than we do. We systematically been set up to not

— [139:27.900 --> 139:36.660] own nothing or have nothing in our neighborhoods. That's the difference. That's the thing that he doesn't know. But you know, don't you? No,

— [139:36.660 --> 139:44.840] I don't. I don't. I don't know that. You do know. I don't. You know why we don't own businesses. It's another conversation that I don't want to get into.

— [139:44.840 --> 139:53.000] Okay, we don't have to though. But you don't know why we don't know I don't I do know okay, I don't want to have the conversation Okay, our priorities is fucked up and that's why we all own

— [139:53.000 --> 140:01.060] business. I hate when you're a little brother Please with that that is not why we don't own business every all black people's Priorities are not

— [140:01.060 --> 140:09.060] fucked up. So that's why there's no business I'm

— [140:09.060 --> 140:17.180] not jumping it but he said that that irked me that part the only we talked about a little black boy getting murdered in The store somehow we always get

— [140:17.180 --> 140:25.240] back to what black people are or are not doing. I want to just keep the focus where it's supposed to be. Got you. That's all. Okay.

— [140:25.240 --> 140:33.400] Rest in peace. Rest in peace. Yeah, rest in peace. You said they, you said they, what are they doing to the store? You said it was tannins. Vandalizing it, vandalizing,

— [140:34.240 --> 140:42.260] throwing rocks. Oh, they can't open. You can't, you can't. I wouldn't even do that. And the first day they had all the police out there. I don't want to make no insurance money. The first day they had all

— [140:42.260 --> 140:50.380] the police out there. And I seen that, I was like, this ain't gonna last, but for so long, y'all can't have these fuck, 50 cop cars out here all day. Yeah, not

— [140:50.380 --> 140:58.600] at all. And we shouldn't have to do that. We should starve the store if no 1 ever goes in there. Don't burn it down, don't do none of that because again, all they gonna do is inflate the insurance quotes,

— [140:58.680 --> 141:07.200] get the money and go somewhere else. Just starve them, leave them niggas alone. Let them stand right there with 0 fuck business. Yes And

— [141:07.200 --> 141:15.480] I hate the civil civil suit shit is a remedy for For somebody's put the price in a way and nobody being held accountable

— [141:15.720 --> 141:24.060] for the death if y'all think that them house wasn't shutting it down when this shit was over. It's over They know they can't be there. They know they cannot Do

— [141:24.060 --> 141:32.100] that they cannot operate that I'm with store like that No, what the child will do is change the sign 2 weeks

— [141:32.100 --> 141:40.380] and that's why we got to shut the shit down. Or sell it to 1 of they people like yo boy. We'll pay black people to work in there, I know they probably wouldn't do that but. No they will. They don't fuck with me. At the last resort.

— [141:40.820 --> 141:48.820] They will. Anyway, rest in peace, while we on rest in peace vibes, I want to do a rest in peace to 1 of the greatest. There you go, get in your bag. Singers. Let's go, man. Of all

— [141:48.820 --> 141:57.080] time. You know, he is the sound and the voice of love and of soul of romance I'm talking about people rising who passed away a

— [141:57.080 --> 142:05.320] few days ago after a stroke And we know he'd had a heart attack maybe 6 years ago and recovered,

— [142:05.320 --> 142:13.440] but then the stroke took him over. But he is somebody who we often talk about as an elite singer, but I don't think we give him enough credit for everything that

— [142:13.440 --> 142:21.500] he was. And in some ways he was the last of a dying breed. He's somebody who, whoo, he's a good 1. He's somebody who,

— [142:21.500 --> 142:29.680] since the 1970s, has been just an amazing artist. He's collaborated with everybody. A lot of people know him first from the Capitol music era.

— [142:29.680 --> 142:38.200] That's when he did those amazing duet albums. He was 1 of the trendsetters with duet albums. He did Natalie Cole, also Roberta Flack.

— [142:38.480 --> 142:46.560] I mean amazing albums. And then he moves into the electric records era. That's when he started having those hits. And those hits hits.

— [142:47.300 --> 142:55.360] He was special man. He worked with Luther Vandross who tried to make them rivals, but Luther helped produce his first his first work He was just

— [142:55.360 --> 143:03.820] different man vocally technically he was special and Even during the disco era in 76 77 when people were still making disco and funk records,

— [143:04.180 --> 143:12.200] he was like, don't forget about this soul thing, don't forget about these ballads, don't forget about the shit you're listening to right now. And of course, finally, he was,

— [143:12.200 --> 143:20.420] he knew how to make a pop record. God damn right he did. A Whole New World, which I didn't, that actually knocked Whitney Houston off the charts.

— [143:20.420 --> 143:28.840] Oh wow. That's the song that knocked I Will Always Love You off the charts. But I will, you know, Whole New World, Beauty and the Beast, all those Disney tracks, he

— [143:28.840 --> 143:37.160] even gave soul to Disney. That's a fact. You know what I'm saying? He was just a different kind of dude and He's the last of a dying breeze so we send him love

— [143:37.160 --> 143:45.200] and and his family love and we will always play his music and remember him for The special artist that he was for me tonight. I celebrate my love is the

— [143:45.200 --> 143:53.680] joint even when your wife is away on a work trip especially my wife is

— [143:58.100 --> 144:06.260] a bad rest of peace people we love you we miss you ma'am let it rock to the chorus for real 1 Now that I'm older and

— [144:06.260 --> 144:16.240] can remember when my mom was playing some of these records over and over and over, some nigga had my mom fucked up. Why

— [144:16.240 --> 144:24.400] was he? Why she was blasting this like that? Queen of this sh** out there House of Spock

— [144:24.400 --> 144:34.620] was running Let me stop, she gonna listen to talk sh** about me Hey

— [144:34.620 --> 144:53.260] you Hold up now Boy you're in full sh** yo Yep, pack the money up with that 1 little line 1 line People

— [144:53.260 --> 145:02.120] was different man. No people was him. Yeah, he was special people in peace and listen some say some say Everybody down. People got everybody the fuck down. They got the UPS, FedEx, everybody packing things up. DHL. Peebo was different, man. Nah, Peebo was him. Rest in peace, man. Some say it. No.

— [145:03.420 --> 145:11.760] I think so too. I don't think it is. Come on, let's put the debate to bed. What are you saying? Let's

— [145:11.760 --> 145:25.920] put the debate to bed who has the best verse on secret garden Oh No,

— [145:26.200 --> 145:34.400] I was confused in our James Ingram Oh, no, I thought you did that It ain't really no best on so that's what I thought you would say it's no best

— [145:34.400 --> 145:42.780] There's a best of secret garden, but I Change Ingram 8 niggas lunch on James Ingram is the best on secret garden

— [145:42.780 --> 145:54.660] and I like everybody first and they go don't Know what? Just

— [145:54.660 --> 146:02.900] stop the right there. Yeah, what are we talking about? Man Who you texting moment all them niggas went crazy? No,

— [146:02.900 --> 146:12.600] I fuck with no be clear now Keith want to text Now that body right now Keith on the line You

— [146:12.600 --> 146:20.660] are looking Who knows regarding the topic you introduce Please for

— [146:20.660 --> 146:29.040] enough Freddy Freddy Jackson There wasn't no Luther Freddy would go

— [146:29.040 --> 146:43.100] down It's

— [146:43.100 --> 146:55.480] got them ankles out. You want some bulls**t? You got Plans at the bar go pick your daughter from and go in lavender Nobody

— [146:55.540 --> 147:03.560] ever in the history of Girl dad pick their daughter up in a lavender short set with they emblem

— [147:03.560 --> 147:11.600] on it. Nobody did that, yo. Where you going for real, nigga? You're not going to the Chinese store. Whoa, whoa. I'm going to pick up my daughter. And then

— [147:11.600 --> 147:19.620] what? Hold on, hold on. What sneaker he got on? I said a fresh G-phase, though. What y'all call him? Uptown? Yes. Okay. Well, I'm

— [147:19.620 --> 147:27.840] calling them Philly. We call them forces, I think. Air forces. Air forces. How many hits Freddie Jackson got? Joe. 3. A lot. Joe how many

— [147:27.840 --> 147:39.440] a lot like 10? Easy 10 you got like 10 easy 10 is crazy. No, it's not great. I'm gonna call her Freddie Jack Trigger

— [147:39.440 --> 147:51.820] words in the fucking sentence. I gotta ask my dad He gonna get mad yeah Enough

— [147:51.820 --> 148:00.040] of you You said 10. I'm calling somebody else. I'm calling my lifeline on all school matters. He got a lot of R&B hits.

— [148:00.040 --> 148:08.160] I think you all underestimate how many songs Yes, sir. Look at you at the car table Like what do you do?

— [148:08.160 --> 148:17.260] Go home? Why are you at the car table right now? Where you at? Work Hey

— [148:17.260 --> 148:25.520] listen quick question, I know you a little bit how many real quick how many hits on the top of your head this Freddie Jackson have How many hits you say

— [148:25.520 --> 148:33.620] there's Freddie Jackson? All right,

— [148:33.620 --> 148:41.880] so you don't know I'm the Hinty guy. Yeah, you got 2. You got 2 for sure. That's what I was thinking. By the numbers it's coming. I mean, I'm just telling you, I wasn't guessing. All right, go ahead. Back to your

— [148:41.880 --> 148:51.900] game. I'll call you later. By the way. All right, let's see. Freddie Jackson's biggest career hit in 19, is his 1985 signature

— [148:51.900 --> 149:00.460] track Rock me tonight, of course, it became a massive R&B smash got it got it. But alright, here we go Night was his biggest he has 10 number

— [149:00.460 --> 149:08.480] 1 US R&B records That's almost the exact number Mark said. And 8 more in the top 10. Right. Oh. Yeah, I didn't pull the

— [149:08.480 --> 149:16.660] number up my ass. I already knew the answers. All right, rock me tonight. The number. You are my lady. Hit. Hit. Hit. You. I need

— [149:16.660 --> 149:24.820] to hear what the F**k Tasty Love is. Let me see. You know that song. I gotta see. You know Tasty Love. I just gotta see. Let me see. I can type it in

— [149:24.820 --> 149:33.140] right here. I don't know you can sing. I can't. If I can sing. You looking for any reason to talk to some p**sy. God damn. You just freestyled. Oh you can sing.

— [149:33.140 --> 149:50.480] Am I on my body or she on my body? You don't want me to say what I think it is. Neither 1 of y'all want

— [149:50.480 --> 149:58.520] me to say what I think. Let me see, Freddy Jackson, here we go. Yo, this thing crazy. You think I throw pussy around that fast? Yes. I just got

— [149:58.520 --> 150:06.760] the job. Yes. Bro, I'm going to keep asking them shit. The answer is going to be yes. My bad. Oh

— [150:06.760 --> 150:16.240] y'all better stop playing with Freddie Jackson. I'm trying to tell y'all. Y'all fucking bugging. That was y'all. I'm not mad. I ain't a fan. Nah. Nah.

— [150:16.240 --> 150:24.460] Y'all better watch y'all fucking mouth. Hold up. Alright, what else you got? Why you taking the lift back? I got y'all. Keep reading. Have you ever loved somebody? Jammed a night, do me again, like

— [150:24.460 --> 150:33.960] yo. What's have you ever loved somebody? Go ahead. It's 1 of them, trust me. That nigga got hits, bro. Freddie Jackson got hits. My boy is so good. Yes.

— [150:33.960 --> 150:42.040] Is that have you ever loved somebody? No, no, you're talking about 50-50. Somebody loved him, yes, and not that. So what's his? Google, I mean, pull it up. Here I got you parts

— [150:42.040 --> 150:52.788] got a daddy Yo, oh

— [150:55.883 --> 151:07.165] my God, yo. Oh,

— [151:10.260 --> 151:18.400] Luther Lucky Boy. Yes! Don't get carried away. Don't get carried away. Don't get carried away. Don't get carried away. Don't get carried away. Don't get carried away. Now, Freddie

— [151:18.400 --> 151:26.580] got more joints than I remember. He got a lot of joy. He got joy. Freddie would have been him. You might have made a good point today. He was gay, right? Who, Freddie

— [151:26.580 --> 151:34.700] or Luther? Both of them. Both of them. Luther never said that, so we can't say. Oh, we got it. Did Freddie say he was gay? I don't know. But If it

— [151:34.700 --> 151:42.820] wasn't for Luther Vandross, Freddie Jackson would have been that Nick which Luther no bigger small Well, I just wanna point out for Jackson still alive. He's still like nigga. Oh

— [151:42.820 --> 151:51.680] damn. He's saying was No, I'm saying like in the 80s Wasn't

— [151:51.680 --> 151:59.700] as popular Freddy Jackson would have been that Went to Luther

— [151:59.700 --> 152:07.840] funeral like the Womack's winter Sam cook Ready and Luther?

— [152:08.200 --> 152:16.200] What was the beef? Dude, they fighting over dudes? Oh my. Joe, Joe, Joe. I'll take it back. There's 2 reasons. 1 of them I

— [152:16.200 --> 152:24.220] tell you, 1 of them I can't. But the reason, the public reason was... Well you're gonna tell me what's behind the scenes. Yeah, y'all think it's only the b****es making n****s fight. No, I don't

— [152:24.220 --> 152:32.360] think that. No, no. Oh no, it's gay n****s. They fighting over dick for sure. Yeah, it's not out of the question, but... I fought over dick a couple times in my life. Shit, they

— [152:32.360 --> 152:40.420] didn't do that. Each 1 of them thought the other was sort of disrespectful and people thought that Luther felt like Freddie was a fake version of him. Okay. I can see

— [152:40.420 --> 152:48.460] that. Did Luther really feel that way? If I was Freddie, I'd call him a cover artist. That's what people who do. What's the behind the scenes stuff you can't tell us? I can't tell

— [152:48.460 --> 152:56.640] you. No, fuck. He'll tell us when the camera's off. I can tell you when the camera's off. It's not deep. Yeah, I just can't tell you when. Too bad for the viewers and people that power the show. That'll get

— [152:56.640 --> 153:04.760] some subs subscribe right now y'all So much about a talk about in the kitchen We know

— [153:04.760 --> 153:12.860] but the first reason is a good reason I mean like his people don't know a little Freddie and Luther tension But Luther tried to chill it out, but he they could better

— [153:12.860 --> 153:25.160] start playing with Playing the question Who

— [153:25.160 --> 153:35.420] the f*** is Freddie Jackson? I never said who the f***. I know who it is. I just thought it was more like Roberta Flack hit. Now

— [153:35.420 --> 153:43.440] you're just trolling. You think Roberta Flack only had a few hits? Yes. E-mini is tight. Including the 1 we just heard from people, how many times you think

— [153:43.440 --> 153:51.600] Roberta got? She was a great duet. Rest in peace, Roberta Flack, yo. That, Roberta Flack's 1 of Mark's favorites that makes sense

— [153:51.780 --> 154:00.060] yeah I like great artists he likes Roberta flat is a whoo you like Jay like to shut up great artists

— [154:00.060 --> 154:08.300] great artists by great artists how many slaps over Robert a flag up double digits you got a brother real fuck double digits for sure

— [154:08.440 --> 154:16.720] easily easily Even if you take the Dining album away. Name some. I'm putting them all in. Name some solo Roberta Flack smashes. I've

— [154:16.720 --> 154:24.920] done this before, so I mean we ain't got to spend a lot of time on it, but just for sh** giggles. And Rest In Peace Roberta Flack, a queen, a legend, an icon. There

— [154:24.920 --> 154:33.220] we go. But it wasn't a lot of solo slaps. Those are 2 big ones right there like making

— [154:33.220 --> 154:41.340] love you got a friend First I ever saw you say that 3 number ones That's around my what I what I got it as you got like

— [154:41.340 --> 154:50.100] 4 slaps Like 4 slaps Exactly look you got to do a whole lot of digging Cuz

— [154:50.100 --> 154:58.340] I'm gonna say something that you but well, that's not the chart position I don't really why we gotta strike all the daddy Hathaway records. I don't care about the truck I was making a point that you don't even need the Donny Hathaway records for that.

— [154:58.680 --> 155:06.780] I mean, You might need them. That's helpful. You might need them. If you get Donny Hathaway records, then you have 50. If we're including Donny Hathaway records, then there's nothing for me

— [155:06.780 --> 155:14.840] to say. Oh, then yeah. That's like a Monty, including all his Kanye records. It's not the same. Kanye said, gee. When Joe says something

— [155:14.840 --> 155:22.860] funny. That's different than doing half of a whole song. When Joe says some shit. It's number 1 hits with features. I don't. I think people's music is their music. And if

— [155:22.860 --> 155:38.140] you have a significant role in the song last

— [155:38.140 --> 155:46.280] question. How many hits bad you'll build up? 25 y'all can't I'm not even I agree throw this

— [155:46.280 --> 155:54.720] whole fuck. Yeah, nobody here better. Not even you think it's more like a baby The bell before you go. I agree it's more less. I'm not ready to before you It's

— [155:54.720 --> 156:03.580] 30. Do you think it's less? Why I think 25 is I think 25 be 25 Y'all are tripping nobody That's

— [156:03.580 --> 156:11.800] a lot of hits she got it though you kidding me between the bell the soul I mean cuz they not counting that Vule Vufa she have a quality as

— [156:11.800 --> 156:20.100] you are about to say only 1 voice You know on that I'm saying that's they're not thinking. Yeah, 42 songs chart on the the hot

— [156:23.200 --> 156:35.500] Top she has over 30 charting solo singles she

— [156:35.500 --> 156:43.620] still know what's popping me in this bitch's same hairdresser. Like, Patti is her. Really? Yeah, we're Crazy Hands. Like, the same

— [156:43.620 --> 156:52.380] shop or the same actual hairdresser? The same shop, hairdresser, all. What? I was asking for clarification. What's

— [156:52.380 --> 157:00.420] the name of it? Crazy. And when was your last time? Her name is Crazy Hands and she is legit 1 of the best hairstylists in Philadelphia. Well, I know. I sat

— [157:00.420 --> 157:08.560] in the chair. He's going, though. And she does go off Like see her again. She gave you the crazy hands. No, you gotta

— [157:08.560 --> 157:16.620] fuck. I ain't never been. I'm talking shit. I remember. That's dope. Ms. Patty had me perfect every time. No, Patty, I

— [157:16.620 --> 157:24.640] remember I was at a Marcia Ambrose show in Philly. Securing shit. No, I wasn't. Were you security? They can't just break in there with big freeze at the door.

— [157:24.640 --> 157:32.720] You know Marsha was safe Floatry was safe. What happened free? No, it was just funny cuz she pulled Patty out on

— [157:32.720 --> 157:40.740] stage She's saying if only you knew and after she was done she goes ladies and gentlemen, the greatest singer in the world, Joe Scott, but it was Marsha Ambrosius.

— [157:41.280 --> 157:49.380] Get the fuck out of here. I swear to God. Never happened, he made that up. I swear to God. Patty was so poised in professional, she would never make a mistake. Patty was, no ma'am, but

— [157:49.760 --> 157:57.940] I promise you. Stop playing, boy. I promise you. This is a little slippery lip. No, it wasn't. Whoops, Daisy. Oops,

— [157:58.220 --> 158:06.260] my bad. Wow. Oops, I made it. I don't know if that story's true or not, but it's a heck of a story. I'm telling you so. Nah, I'm fine. No, no, I don't doubt what you're saying or confirm what you said

— [158:07.120 --> 158:15.280] It's a Philadelphia. I'm gonna shut the fuck I believe your pay levels. I do I Love a

— [158:15.280 --> 158:23.340] little security shit Is a farce he was hoping to dance Yeah, we jump there he ran in there

— [158:25.260 --> 158:33.560] Ice went in there got a couple kicks. I could totally see it No, I don't know Ice

— [158:33.560 --> 158:41.720] walks past like I don't want anything to do with that. That's what's happening. No, I don't think he watched the whole thing. No, I think he- You might even recorded it. I think he went in head first on some headbutt shit. He definitely got

— [158:41.720 --> 158:49.980] physical with a nigga though. He rammed on some headbutt shit. Pause. Look at that nigga's head. Y'all so dumb, y'all gonna look too. Sorry, I got

— [158:49.980 --> 158:58.017] too. Yo, black people- We all- Yo, black people so stupid. We all did a slow- Like we ain't seen before too, right? Black people are so dumb, y'all. This is terrible. Yo, look at And it is also dumb. You're gonna look to black people, black people. So stupid. Black people are so

— [158:58.017 --> 159:06.180] dumb. You know, it's terrible. Yeah. Look at it. I'm thinking. So we turn around. Look at it. Anyways, man. What

— [159:06.260 --> 159:15.240] else? What else? I'm bored. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Absolutely nothing is important. But it's fine. What's not important? Daphne

— [159:15.240 --> 159:23.600] joy Daphne joy What do you think I'm so glad Mona Nobody's happier

— [159:23.600 --> 159:31.700] than me that that Mona's here Mona. I got a lot of heat out there for my pop dick review. And the thing about me is I was so upset

— [159:31.700 --> 159:40.620] because I wasn't here saying what you're doing it with you see 1 I mean need you to be this is the thing right number 1 bravo Daphne

— [159:42.120 --> 159:50.360] I see you girl okay the Only annoying part about the video is like when they get into it. It's this big fat

— [159:50.360 --> 159:59.440] old black guy to keep walking through It's puff Because he doesn't do anything You

— [159:59.440 --> 160:07.840] can't you know something all he does is keep walking he can't cause them drugs got that dick balled up when you get that high you can't perform

— [160:09.500 --> 160:17.820] he did something he paid oh please I was irritated I told like I said earlier I was irritated like a little snail oh my god you

— [160:17.940 --> 160:26.200] I didn't know you wanted to go right there dick little shit I figured that was the drugs like Puffy can't have a little dick in real life. Puffy

— [160:26.200 --> 160:34.460] can't have a little dick. It was real life. Right. But I'm saying no, no. Have you ever seen 1 that's wrong in real life? Yes. What do you do in that situation?

— [160:34.460 --> 160:43.000] What you do? First of all, I'm sitting amongst a bunch of them right now. No, I'm not a... I'm joking, guys. I'm

— [160:43.000 --> 160:51.180] not a fan of like big, big dicks. So it's like I'm not like an old whatever, but it's worse when the person is tall or big and he come out with that little You know mean

— [160:51.320 --> 160:59.320] like we big you got a gut and you can't see nothing Like you still can't see dick cuz belly cover the whole dick. It gets a little awkward It's all about the guy though when a

— [160:59.320 --> 161:07.380] guy has a small dick and he's confident with it he come in swinging that shrimp head up I like them kind of niggas but then awkward about it try to hurry pull it

— [161:07.380 --> 161:15.460] out while the lights on and shit or keep popping out he keeps saying stop playing like it's my fault It could have

— [161:15.460 --> 161:23.540] been real girl in this world. Shit wet as hell. Shit wet. Yeah. I hate that. I hate that. I can't believe. So what the fuck was

— [161:23.540 --> 161:31.640] the excuse to last 10 bitches? Nobody can keep this little. No, but I think it was a great, I think Daphne is a really, I don't know how to put it, but a good

— [161:31.640 --> 161:39.640] sex worker? I don't know, her mom's the way she look like. I feel like if I paid a bitch, I would want her to, I would want Daphne to eat my butt and sound like that. Because she

— [161:39.640 --> 161:47.880] seemed like she really liked every moment of everything that was happening. And I enjoyed that. I felt like a little cuck myself. And

— [161:47.880 --> 161:55.900] it was like the motherfucking, the ring of cocktail shrimp at the supermarket But just 1 of them, you know, they'd be extra small They only try to

— [161:55.900 --> 162:04.340] give you a big shrimp and then he kept like fidgeting with it Like every time he got to the camera here do like some little flop, you know what I mean? Like, let me remember that mother******.

— [162:04.440 --> 162:18.460] Get up! Because if you, listen, I'm telling you, after your third 8 ball, that's it. That n**** is asleep. Okay, that mother****** ain't coming back. There's nothing you can do to it. Clear! And

— [162:18.460 --> 162:26.580] I feel like even the guy, because the guy was really attractive too. Like really, like Puffy, that's how I know Puffy is a different type of nigga. Because for you to book these niggas, they

— [162:26.580 --> 162:34.660] got triple times as much dick as you got. Triple. What you learn man? No, no, no. That young boy had a lot of

— [162:35.080 --> 162:43.440] people in him. I ain't gonna lie, man. I tell. I'm bad and mad, but that nigga was at least puff time 45. Oh

— [162:43.440 --> 162:51.520] my God. But for Puff to do that, That's how you know he really cares about the show You know what I mean? Because he could be like embarrassed like oh, I don't wanna bring this young

— [162:51.520 --> 162:59.700] thing in with all his dick He like nah, I want you to do the donkey dick on his ass. That's what I like Puff in the corner rubbing that pussy

— [163:01.700 --> 163:09.880] That coochie boy Puff got extended clitoris that dick little I feel for him though and everything makes sense Puff Daddy. So now we're giving

— [163:09.880 --> 163:18.060] 2 dick reviews of Puff. I'ma write them. How about that Daphne Joy? You know, actually before we talk about Daphne, This thing is gonna come home.

— [163:19.180 --> 163:27.200] So? This is true. I mean, I know you're different, you're security, but like a lot of people, a lot of people got a lot of energy for Puff right now, a lot of jokes because

— [163:27.200 --> 163:35.280] he's got another couple years. When he come home, I'm just saying, is the energy gonna change? Like I try to make jokes based on like why I say this if you were standing here Or if I could

— [163:35.280 --> 163:43.380] bump it to you on the street Yeah, no Just mean like I'm not gonna say

— [163:43.380 --> 163:51.380] nothing great I try not to say nothing behind your back that I would have a problem saying in front of your face. And that's what I'm saying, we get a lot of dick jokes off of you. If he was right here,

— [163:51.380 --> 163:59.620] I probably wouldn't make a bunch of little dick jokes. If he was right here, that's different. But I don't plan on ever speaking to Puff or seeing him again. What? So I wouldn't

— [163:59.620 --> 164:07.880] give a fuck. Never? No, no, no, why would I be traveling similar circles? No, we don't No,

— [164:07.880 --> 164:15.960] he's not gonna be Industry people y'all both Titans y'all both got businesses. I Figure your swords

— [164:15.960 --> 164:24.340] might cross us. I'm not sure. Hey yo, I see what you're doing In front of you You

— [164:24.340 --> 164:32.460] can bump into with the next game. It could be something as simple as that true. I Don't plan on being anywhere where pop is or speak But if you saw him

— [164:32.460 --> 164:40.600] out in the street, you wouldn't hold a conversation with him? Probably not. Really? Yeah. What we gotta talk about? He'll tell you. Well, let me say this. Were y'all holding

— [164:40.600 --> 164:48.620] conversations prior to any of this? Yes. Yeah, I worked with him. Oh. I worked with him. Oh, damn. He was on Revolt. Yeah, Revolt, yeah. Oh, well,

— [164:48.620 --> 164:57.100] frankly, what we talking about? Fuck. Take that, nigga. Take that, take that. You think that's weird? You think that's odd? You think that's strange? I don't think that you should.

— [164:57.620 --> 165:05.680] I think a lot of people that was in Puff Life may feel similar. I'm saying, but I don't- That's what Stevie J spoke to. I don't necessarily feel like- Well, Stevie J is his friend.

— [165:05.680 --> 165:13.820] No, I'm saying that, but that's what he was speaking to the people that was there that just cold cut puff off He like you're I remember I'm not with none of y'all Yeah,

— [165:13.820 --> 165:21.840] everybody that cut him off like that. I'm not with y'all. I could see that. I don't wish him. I don't wish him any harm I want to know what it's with his things

— [165:21.840 --> 165:30.380] about me I wish him well I don't wish him I don't believe it I don't but to speak to him I don't I don't see it got it if

— [165:30.380 --> 165:38.460] puff for my friend would I be talking to no what you seem like you thought that that was strange that Joe wouldn't. I'm just curious. That he wouldn't speak to him. I don't think hanging

— [165:38.460 --> 165:46.940] out with him is 1 thing, but Puff comes home from jail, he endured the things that he endured. He was accused and charged

— [165:47.320 --> 165:55.760] separately and the things that he was accused of and he was charged with, for Joe to say, yo, I wouldn't talk to him, it's surprising to me. But

— [165:55.760 --> 166:03.880] why? That's what I'm curious in. Why? Because y'all have a rapport. Y'all might not be friends, but y'all definitely have a rapport that was more

— [166:03.880 --> 166:12.220] than cordial You get what I'm saying? Like did y'all have anything outside of business any type of report outside of business? I Mean if you ask me no

— [166:12.900 --> 166:20.980] So then I can understand but I could When I when I first started working at revolt, I'll tell you a quick little story that's supposed to stay prox stay

— [166:20.980 --> 166:29.340] private But I got a podcast with millions of listeners off. Well when I was about to start working at revolt Me and puff had a private

— [166:29.340 --> 166:40.140] meeting You can't help yourself Not

— [166:40.140 --> 166:48.240] a privates meeting And you can't help yourself. I just- No, I get it. You can't help yourself. I always wonder how you got to get your vote. Go ahead. So you had a private meeting. Should I add up now? Not a privates meeting. For which he'd have been a no-show. That was a short meeting. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Another little day down. I don't

— [166:48.240 --> 166:56.820] care. They hate me, buddy. Ah! But anyway, we was having a meeting. Where was that? At his house. Wet

— [166:56.820 --> 167:05.630] at your blood. I'm not doing this. Fuck it. We was having a meeting at his house and he was like, listen. Go

— [167:05.630 --> 167:14.040] ahead, nigga. All right, we can be mature. You want to work with, did he say come to my house? Oh my God. Go.

— [167:14.460 --> 167:22.840] I cannot go. I'm not going. But we had a meeting in which he explained, yo, I heard a lot about you, I heard that you were crazy, I heard

— [167:23.420 --> 167:31.440] you was lunatic, I heard you've done wild things before, I heard you could be a thing. So I wanna let you know that I

— [167:31.440 --> 167:39.520] don't mind any of that. However, here, if you hit somebody, if you throw something at somebody or do something

— [167:39.520 --> 167:47.540] that's going to really put this business in jeopardy, then you got to go. 0 tolerance, no job, it's too much

— [167:47.540 --> 167:55.600] at stake. It's too much going on over here. It's totally unacceptable, 0 tolerance. So when I heard that, and I appreciated him telling me that. I

— [167:55.600 --> 168:03.640] appreciated that. I was super grateful that he told me that. And I was like, dope, because I ain't about to be a problem here. But in my head, I

— [168:03.640 --> 168:12.640] was like, ditto. Right. Right. But it's different. How? Because what

— [168:12.640 --> 168:20.940] he said to you is dope. I'm Assuming that he's looking at you like a little brother like yo dog mad niggas told me don't fuck with you as a farce

— [168:25.040 --> 168:37.660] Yo, he's looking at you like dog mad niggas might have told me don't fuck you, but I'm gonna give you a shot So something in you we like Why

— [168:37.660 --> 168:46.080] is it nuts for the Puff to look at Joe like a little bro? Like, anyway, cool. Yo, we gonna take a shot. This is business. I said you being outside, running

— [168:46.080 --> 168:54.080] into him at a social gathering or a basketball game or something like that does not affect your business to be cordial and have a conversation. It

— [168:54.080 --> 169:02.200] could though. Yeah, good. It absolutely could. Tell me how. Yo, if I'm having a conversational puff and it's just him like, yo man, Smile and somebody take a picture of

— [169:02.200 --> 169:12.440] that that could affect your business just off perception And there's those couple seconds even worth this drama that comes exactly We

— [169:12.440 --> 169:20.700] talked to you in your time and he Will puffy stop me have a conversation with you This is the thing about you my brother my

— [169:20.700 --> 169:28.740] my friend when you when you when you say he look at you like a little brother and most of us go no and you go Well, why would he look at his little brother because this entertainment is

— [169:28.740 --> 169:36.860] bull. So no for a nigga Look at a nigga like his little brother y'all had to really go through some s*** and have some personal s***. But just the fact that he's bigger,

— [169:36.860 --> 169:45.120] he knows him, he f***ing knows his brother, half his n***a are each other like competition anyway. So it's never no brother, family, loving look when it comes to this entertainment s***,

— [169:45.120 --> 169:53.380] period. That's why I asked, was it anything outside of business? That could be true. Yeah, he looked at me like a new hire that had the potential to flip this company around and he was having

— [169:53.380 --> 170:01.600] a risk assessment conversation with me. Yeah. And like, you know, I'ma choose a business over you. And people be, exactly. You gotta go. And people be thinking that because they hire

— [170:01.600 --> 170:10.160] up in the hierarchy, then they the only ones that have the right to say that. But I didn't feel like that at all. I don't feel like that at all. So

— [170:10.180 --> 170:18.420] you got yourself in a pickle, don't come around me. Don't call me, don't text me, don't come around. I don't give a fuck what we been through. You got

— [170:18.420 --> 170:26.980] yourself in a pickle. You are more harmed than good. Yeah, I can't afford to have you around me. Right. Yeah. This don't like it.

— [170:26.980 --> 170:35.160] We ain't family. It's not about what I like and what I dislike. I could disagree. But what about that turns you off, like about that whole thing? No, it's not even turning

— [170:35.160 --> 170:43.160] me off. I'm just saying I could have my own perception. I think that I don't necessarily have to do business with you for me to be cordial with you outside. It's 2

— [170:43.160 --> 170:51.180] totally different things. So What is it have to be for you to be cordial? Like what do you have to have in a person for you to feel like you're going to speak to them after

— [170:51.180 --> 170:59.420] he gets caught with that kind of stuff? If a nigga was all wait, what's, so when you say that kind of stuff, what do you mean? Beating the shit out of his girl on camera.

— [170:59.420 --> 171:07.480] Yes, just leave it at Cassie in the hallway. Let's leave it there and fuck everything else. Shit. Now 1 thing about us, we gonna smoke some shit.

— [171:07.740 --> 171:16.420] Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha. Speaking of smoking. She tapped her arm up. Your moment is a fucking fool. Nah,

— [171:16.420 --> 171:24.640] you know what? Because like that whole thing of like, I'm not somebody that's going like dog pound nobody or whatever, but I just feel like

— [171:24.640 --> 171:32.780] in this industry, yes absolutely, I can just totally cut off anything about an a** cuss, you know what I mean? Fendi. Fuck,

— [171:32.780 --> 171:40.800] like you're dead. I ain't gonna talk to you in the beginning. So this is just another reason that I ain't got to talk to you. Moan, I wanna ask you a question.

— [171:40.800 --> 171:48.846] I'm so glad you're here for the conversation. Cause we started off talking about Daphne Joy. And once the tape dropped, she put out

— [171:48.846 --> 171:57.040] a statement, deleted that statement, and then went, like leaned all the way

— [171:57.040 --> 172:05.280] into, what do you wanna call it, risque? You know, I dropped my OnlyFans 85%. She got videos

— [172:05.280 --> 172:13.440] up. She got puff music playing in the video now. And how do you feel about that? I feel like at

— [172:13.440 --> 172:21.700] the end of the day, like just the times we live in is like, everybody is on like, I gotta take the best part of it,

— [172:21.700 --> 172:29.840] almost like, to get the benefit out of it. That's like, when it weren't saying about me, I hope you die, I hope your next would ever die. Every time a nigga

— [172:29.840 --> 172:37.860] said that, my numbers went up. Every time, so it's like, in the game I'm in, I can take advantage and like drop my merch on

— [172:37.860 --> 172:46.040] the day the person says I hope you die, even though that's kind of like nasty. You know what I mean? I feel like we're her. Ain't nobody looking at, I feel like that looks

— [172:46.040 --> 172:54.500] like her take make the statement take it back cuz somebody calls that bitch You have post that only fans will get that money because it's like why wouldn't you we're

— [172:54.540 --> 173:02.780] at this point right now? And she ain't changing it's not like she got saved or not to tell her you know assume things about her But that's we're

— [173:02.780 --> 173:10.860] in the times if she did get saved, we would be on the timeline, right? So it's like, if she's still living the same life and this shit get leaked and it's popping, yeah, go get that fucking money, because

— [173:10.860 --> 173:18.880] Daphne looked great in that video. So why not make some paper out of it? That's how I look at it. And the fact that she went 1 and took it back, somebody called that bitch and said, you're trippin'.

— [173:19.300 --> 173:27.640] You coulda just made 100 bands this week, and that's why she did it. That's how I think it happened. No, I think she got a different phone call. Like what? Bitch, you know you weren't abused. You better stop playin' with me.

— [173:30.080 --> 173:38.100] I don't know. I don't know enough to say that. I think what Isha's sayin' is more likely. If somebody called and said that, they would sound like an abuser. Yeah, for sure. That sounds so abusive.

— [173:38.100 --> 173:46.240] I feel like it might've been an abuser called. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think both are true. I think it might have happened I think that's exactly what kind of person that would be The thing that I thought was strange about

— [173:46.240 --> 173:54.280] it was her leaning into it with like the puff music mad risque The risk is like a little bit humping after you just said yo I

— [173:54.280 --> 174:02.620] wish that part of my life I could take back and never have been there and live through that and I would hug that little girl and all of that other stuff.

— [174:02.620 --> 174:10.760] If you did and you sincerely felt that way, then you shouldn't be on your couch in your house with a negligee on, humping the

— [174:10.760 --> 174:18.820] couch. See, I think those are 2 separate things. That's what I was about to say, and I wanna add that. Let me just finish this up real quick. I think you can say I don't want

— [174:18.820 --> 174:26.920] to be part of that mess over there with them I don't be part of something that I felt was exploitative or unhealthy or whatever for whatever I think it is. I'm not making

— [174:26.920 --> 174:35.000] an assessment of what it was I'm just saying you could a person could say I don't fuck that But I still want to have only fans. I still want to dance I still want to do whatever whatever kind

— [174:35.000 --> 174:43.120] of sex work you want to do I think you have a right to say I'm gonna do that but on my own terms true But I'm not when I say and then when I say exploitative I'm not saying that she wasn't a

— [174:43.120 --> 174:51.600] willing partner whatever happened over there. I don't know that situation I'm saying even just financially exploitative because whatever she's getting on OnlyFans is her bread. And

— [174:52.380 --> 175:00.600] so if she's saying look I want to do that I want to lean into the moment 85% off my OnlyFans all that go ahead do it. Would it be my choice for her if I were her life coach or manager?

— [175:00.600 --> 175:09.140] No, but that's her choice. I just think they're 2 different things and I think what she was trying to run from was the other I

— [175:09.140 --> 175:17.700] just don't like it I don't like I don't like the statement coming out the she is a victim of revenge porn for sure maybe Because

— [175:17.700 --> 175:25.820] some people are saying that she may even be responsible for leaking, leaking, Oh really? Leaking her own video. Again, this is totally, oh,

— [175:25.820 --> 175:34.080] here's speculation. Unfounded. Here's that. Yeah. But, oh yeah. I could see how someone would be incentivized if they were pulling a move.

— [175:34.280 --> 175:42.340] Yeah Nobody would want to say it like that. It looks

— [175:42.340 --> 175:50.340] nasty to put this out I'm the victim. I'm the victim. I'm the victim. I'm the victim I don't want to do any of this and then take

— [175:50.340 --> 175:58.400] it down as if I never put that out and then completely lean this way. She looks like a lying whore. Yeah, and I'm not calling her that, I don't know

— [175:58.400 --> 176:06.400] her. That's just what it looks like on surface. And to so many people she was automatically lying to her before she did that. So it's like who gives a fuck? I'm not mad at

— [176:06.400 --> 176:14.420] nobody. I'm sorry. I'm not mad at nobody having Only fans. I guess I look at it a way in how you choose to

— [176:14.420 --> 176:22.560] promote your only fans when you have kids. So. Because kids grow up.

— [176:23.300 --> 176:31.740] Like I said. Middle school kids are mean. High school kids are mean. Elementary school kids. He's 13. Are mean.

— [176:32.020 --> 176:40.080] Is he? Fam. That would be my number 1 reason for altering my behavior. Think about this though. So if we want to really be, you know, everything go

— [176:40.080 --> 176:48.080] back to money. So she testified that Puff was giving her 10K a month. Right? 1. I just looked

— [176:48.080 --> 176:56.080] it up. 50 is giving her 6, 700 a month. Right? Damn. So if you have no other income

— [176:56.080 --> 177:04.400] coming in, $6, 700 and you live a certain lifestyle, we all have made $7, 000 a

— [177:04.400 --> 177:12.560] month. If you live in a certain lifestyle, bro, $7, 000 a month is no money. So now, you are either stuck

— [177:12.560 --> 177:20.640] with modifying my lifestyle significantly or Doing something else to generate income That's where the potential leak might

— [177:20.640 --> 177:29.020] come in because I know I could get a bag off of this and I now I got a roll Out because if you look at her page people start sending me all the risk a That

— [177:29.020 --> 177:37.220] risk a sh** all of that is leaning into this. So that might have been, I need some money, this is my bag, let me lower my OnlyFans, now

— [177:37.220 --> 177:45.520] I'ma drive y'all to my OnlyFans and see how it plays out. Yeah, I'm with you. I just don't, like I said, I'll do what you want. I didn't like the music

— [177:45.520 --> 177:53.920] in the background, or Puff music, to me that makes light of not just what she went through, but what everybody went through. I thought that was in poor taste. And to your point about

— [177:55.440 --> 178:03.560] the kids and stuff, like Larson Pippen's son spoke out. I know, recently. And was like, yo, I was, it was a hard time. Devastated. Yeah,

— [178:03.560 --> 178:11.700] I had a hard time imagine what that kid imagine that my mom had an affair it was tough on me yeah with future with future and I'm in school

— [178:12.540 --> 178:20.640] bro we came in here talked about the Drake shit Remember the argument with the kid that was playing basketball barely when they was going to you like no he gonna be

— [178:20.640 --> 178:28.740] lit He gonna be lit Sean shooting the next week here go all the tweets of me ridiculing this kid at school Drake busting your mom's I plan on these kids don't

— [178:28.740 --> 178:36.980] give a fuck these names mean It's the only thing that you can turn a hoe into a housewife. Yes I do she don't want whole

— [178:37.500 --> 178:47.020] I do Turn is the yeah, you can't turn her. You can't turn us. She does disagree. I

— [178:47.020 --> 178:55.120] think that I think that there are people that have never been treated well in their lives and I think they can get with a man or woman

— [178:55.120 --> 179:03.860] for that matter and that person can show them a different side of life a different attention a different care that can modify that person. But

— [179:03.860 --> 179:12.080] that ain't the turn though, because that's like some temporary shit. That's not true. Because the second you take, well, if they did it solely for this, then once

— [179:12.080 --> 179:20.200] it's gone, what's left? If you've only lived a life where men treated you like shit, and now

— [179:20.200 --> 179:28.260] you get with a man that respects you, that talks to you, that listens to you, that shows you, because some people feel- Wait, you're talking about ho. Like, how do you

— [179:28.260 --> 179:36.540] define a ho? Just being treated like shit by men? No. I'm talking about a woman that we would call a hoe. Okay. And she's a hoe. She's only been treated

— [179:36.540 --> 179:44.760] a certain way. And as a result of her being treated a certain way, this is her lifestyle. You can show her a whole different lifestyle and

— [179:44.760 --> 179:52.800] that could change the person. It's like taking a kid from the ghetto and they've only known this stimulus and this environment and you could put them in a different environment and it's a

— [179:52.800 --> 180:01.800] totally different kid. But how about when you take it away? That's not what that always happens. That is not what always happens. So.

— [180:02.520 --> 180:10.940] When y'all say, the reason why my automatic response is, when you say can you turn the whole 2 housewives, is yes, is because all the whores are housewives in

— [180:10.940 --> 180:19.000] my experience like Because freaky so when they need to feel like oh, I'm a really like settle down some niggas say fuck and they

— [180:19.000 --> 180:27.080] said I'm with the bitch Everybody fuck already They don't care because they want to get their balls licked and their butthole it right all whores ain't freaking and all Moderate girls

— [180:27.080 --> 180:35.220] some a lot of moderate girls are super freaky And all these whores don't be freaking, they just fuck a lot of niggas. I'm just telling you in my experience, coming up

— [180:35.220 --> 180:43.360] and thinking, I don't want to be a hoe because nobody take you serious. I see whores get taken serious every day, B. That's what the fuck I'm saying. I think there's a difference between changing

— [180:43.360 --> 180:51.360] people's behavior and changing people's mentality. I think you absolutely can change people's actions with, by a lot of shit, including especially money.

— [180:51.980 --> 180:59.980] If you change people's conditions, you can change what they do, but you can't necessarily change someone's mindset. Sometimes you can't. It just depends on the person,

— [180:59.980 --> 181:08.140] but I think they're 2 different things. I think sometimes when we change people behavior, we think they change their mindset. And it's like, well, no, yeah, if I put you in a mansion and I'm gonna be like,

— [181:08.140 --> 181:16.220] you don't have to do that. Don't mean you don't not inclined to. But once it's gone, but now you out the mansion. But those actions are predicated on some survival that they felt they

— [181:16.220 --> 181:24.220] had to do certain things. I'm with you, but not everybody who is in survival mode does those things, so I'm saying, that's what I'm saying, sometimes you can change the actions, sometimes you can change the mentality, sometimes you can

— [181:24.220 --> 181:32.360] do both, it just depends on the person. And some, and not all the hoes is doing it out of survival mode. Some of them got to a point where they just like this shit. That's true. We know

— [181:32.360 --> 181:40.600] cases of situations where wealthy dudes have taken girls out of a strip club, taken girls out of nightlife, and that girl went

— [181:40.600 --> 181:48.720] back or started doing wild shit on the nigga that gave them a better life. I'm not disagreeing, it's a case by case basis. But to answer the question, yes, I think that. So

— [181:48.720 --> 181:57.340] yes, you can. I think you can too. I think you can definitely turn a hoe into a housewife. I Just don't know if you can turn like a whoring time

— [181:58.620 --> 182:07.400] Like if you just hoeing casually like the way did we use the term hoes we see that done every day. Oh, yeah They make good housewives. I'm like

— [182:09.640 --> 182:17.780] But the professional she know all the players the horrors that Professional that would be tough. You're trying to turn her there's

— [182:17.780 --> 182:26.000] nothing you can do to turn her she got a woman She has to want to go a professional. She got a want to go notice There's enough

— [182:26.000 --> 182:34.160] money that can that's my point you can't change the mentality But if you got enough bread you can stop the other because it's more efficient I don't think good. Oh, yeah, I don't think they're all professional

— [182:34.180 --> 182:42.200] whores are just there for the money. Yeah, so it's like addict shit. Like, they got to want to do it. They're passionate about that shit. They got to want to do it. You know what? I don't know that world, so I'm going to defer to

— [182:42.200 --> 182:50.560] you. But remember our conversation? Look, but if that's the case, remember our conversation that we just argued about last week when you were saying yo do you think your girl could

— [182:50.560 --> 182:59.760] be turned do you think these turn your girl and you stood and yes they can no no you can't turn my girl I get girl no

— [182:59.760 --> 183:08.040] no no love like a movie moving up here so We are 1 step closer to our forever. You

— [183:08.040 --> 183:16.340] mad excited when you say that too, boy. You can see the excitement just jump out. I mean, it's a funny bit, But I am really excited.

— [183:16.440 --> 183:24.460] I know. And she is. Like we are, we are, we listen. I'm gonna keep the bit going. Of course. Yeah, yeah, we excited about

— [183:24.460 --> 183:32.520] this shit. We like each other somehow all these years later. That's the best part. Yeah, like we even. That's the best fucking part. We do. Say it. Yeah,

— [183:32.520 --> 183:41.220] word. Fuck y'all. I hate him, Monty. What? He said he was like, that's peace. So

— [183:41.220 --> 183:49.360] say it's peace. Oh No, my man found some love Final love you lying yesterday. Oh

— [183:50.300 --> 183:58.440] Then never mind and that's nitchin Watch me. He didn't tell me anything yesterday. It's not snitching. I didn't see him in a whore. You really find love? Actually,

— [183:58.440 --> 184:06.700] that's exactly what he does. That's literally what we call Patriot. What you talking about? This nigga talk about love every Tuesday and Friday. Speaking

— [184:06.700 --> 184:14.920] of which. Yes. Indeed. This nigga playing with your

— [184:14.920 --> 184:23.480] name, E. This one's gonna count as. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good show today, y'all. Indeed. It was. Good show. Anybody

— [184:23.480 --> 184:31.620] doing anything this weekend? This weekend anything fun? Anything fun? I'm going to the Trap Karaoke tomorrow. Hey. We're

— [184:31.620 --> 184:39.720] going somewhere Sunday I forgot. I don't know. But yeah, I'm outside. We baby free, so. Lord, that man, we thought it was 10, it's 90 degrees. 90 degrees,

— [184:39.960 --> 184:48.300] baby free. What the fuck are they talking about out there, man? I ain't got too much going on this weekend. Go Knicks, always. Go Knicks, always.

— [184:48.460 --> 184:56.600] That's it. Knicks and 4-2, it ain't. Listen, man, hopefully y'all enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you keep us in your prayers

— [184:56.600 --> 185:04.780] Lord knows we need to be there until the next time we bid you adieu farewell adios siriva durci hasta la vista arvois so

— [185:04.780 --> 185:12.860] long goodbye or simple head nod will suffice Remember life is a series of moments and moments past, so

— [185:12.860 --> 185:21.000] let's make this 1 last as if it's all we have. Last but certainly not least, the baddies are insecure,

— [185:21.000 --> 185:29.800] the stagnant women wanna travel, and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things Grab you a time to know you might need it I

— [185:29.800 --> 186:04.120] mean peace love No

— [186:04.120 --> 186:04.960] job done!

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