do this shit every couple of years. Like he's been shitting on hip hop specifically. Fuck Gene Simmons. For years. Kids don't got enough slaps for all
this. He has. Like y'all was alright, but y'all ain't that. Ice, before this, when he would be talking down
on hip hop, he never went like too racist with it. It was just more hip-hop based. I feel like this... This climate. Got these motherfuckers comfortable. Exactly.
I feel like every time this nigga office... The same people that used to pull up to the light and look straight and I look at you,
they cut you off, they... Nigga. You know, they get a little cold, right? But he says on the interview at 1 point, something about like, well, I'm not
from the ghetto. And it's like, nigger you, we know. That was the real telltale. Uh-huh, the ghetto part. That part when he said I'm not from the ghetto. Because his
music opinion, because the analogy that he gave was saying, yo, if that's the case, let Led Zeppelin into the hip hop hall of fame. Right?
So you might have an argument. When he said the ghetto piece, it was like, oh, okay, now you throwing a certain stigma on hip hop. Irrelevant
to his point. Yes. Irrelevant to his point. Way irrelevant to his point. But the real funny shit is, ask him where his mom's is from His mom's is from the real the real
ghettos like Nazi Germany like it is shit They escaped it again escape like born in high school in Israel I'm
gonna be from there and then say you're not from the ghetto so powerfully is crazy. I mean, let me read this just for context. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, boy. He said, it's not
my music. I don't come from the ghetto. It doesn't speak my language. And as I said in print many times, hip hop does not belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nor does opera or symphony orchestras.
How come the New York Phil Harmonic doesn't get into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame because it's called the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And then 1 more
—[100:08.240 --> 100:16.420] Once you get in, the fitness niggas pop in like, oh, look at you. You're doing it all wrong. You're not working out the vertical muscles that you need to,
—[100:16.420 --> 100:24.560] niggas, suck that dick. I got out of bed and I'm in this bullshit. Period. I'm 2 dicks with 2 resistive units
—[100:24.560 --> 100:32.580] on the balls. I'd love to see some of these people tell you your form is bad. I mean, the form wasn't the best, but the bands made sense. But like, we out here, like we working. So what?
—[100:32.780 --> 100:41.400] The form was terrible. They did the same shit to Mark Cuban. They was criticizing, he's 60 fucking 7 curling weight in the gym and they're like. I'm confused with the form. Dog, I'm in there with tendonitis in
—[100:41.400 --> 100:49.400] my elbow, nigga. No, my form ain't right. I could be home, sleeping. Listen, you said the form could be better? What the fuck better could it be if
—[100:49.400 --> 100:57.540] you just pull it instead of straighter? You're supposed to keep your chest to the thing of a jig so that you only are working the arm. I was
—[100:57.540 --> 101:05.660] moving back because the band plus almost maxing the thing out. It was heavy, the training was extra. He'd be freestyling while
—[101:05.660 --> 101:16.120] we in there slaving. He'd be like, all right, all, let me see what else we can do. So I'm not mad at him. He's affordable. Are
—[101:16.120 --> 101:24.160] you seeing results? Yeah. I am. What the fuck, man? I am. You see, that's what I'm saying. We got room for 2 more niggas on here. I think
—[101:24.160 --> 101:32.360] your ice did you work out with Shady. No, it wasn't. He even tells stories. I know you. He does at the top of the show, so you don't hear it. But he's always Shady. He's always Shady. At the top of the show. He can't
—[101:32.360 --> 101:40.420] help it. He from North with the F. This Geechie Gotti topic is important to me. I don't
—[101:40.420 --> 101:48.580] know if it's important to y'all. I don't know the full details. What happened to the story? Geechie Gotti is a world famous battle rapper. 1
—[101:48.580 --> 101:57.180] of the better battle rappers. Friends of the show. He's been up here. Friend of the show. He's been up here. He's been a battle rap champion as recently as a few years ago,
—[101:57.200 --> 102:05.400] limitless potential. Most people recognize him as 1 of the best. Yes. So it was much to my surprise,
—[102:05.420 --> 102:13.580] a lot of people's surprise, when police in West Chester, Ohio, right? Because not
—[102:13.580 --> 102:21.800] West Chester, I'm from New York. West Chester, yeah 2 words, West Chester, Ohio pulled over a car. The
—[102:21.800 --> 102:30.240] car had a few people in it, yeah 4 people, the car when the cop came up, peeled off, made it about
—[102:30.240 --> 102:38.300] 1 exit before everyone decided to get out and run. Well, what it sounded like in the body cam footage, it said something like they
—[102:38.300 --> 102:46.320] hit a strip. So I think they had this planned out because he said they hit a strip, which would explain why the car, why they ended up
—[102:46.320 --> 102:54.360] having to bail. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, it's still so simple. Yeah. So they ran the police caught them pretty
—[102:54.360 --> 103:02.600] instantly. Yeah. Right away. Didn't shoot, didn't fire any shots, no taser. So everyone is arrested. And
—[103:02.600 --> 103:11.560] the battle rap community has just been absolutely on fire. He, Geechie Gotti got caught with 816 Oxycontin
—[103:11.760 --> 103:20.120] pills, 150 tablets of 60 milligram morphine sulfates, 1083 tablets of hydrocodone,
—[103:22.260 --> 103:30.260] Vicodin, 702 tablets of Percocet. Dang. Yo, he's in trouble, y'all. And he
—[103:30.260 --> 103:38.300] was on probation, I want to say. Oh, Lord. And even when, so back to the body cam footage, when they caught 1 of the dudes, he asked them, yo, why
—[103:38.300 --> 103:46.900] are you arresting me? And he said, because your name is such and such, and you've been robbing pharmacies in the area. So it's like, you can hear, like, they've been, they've watching
—[103:46.900 --> 103:55.460] this thing. It's a sting, basically. Because they also said that 1 of the dudes, they've been watching him from the minute he landed in Cincinnati airport.
—[103:56.600 --> 104:05.370] So they kind of let this play out to catch y'all. So For now, the bulk of the pharmacies are all in Ohio. They're not outside the state of Ohio. I
—[104:05.660 --> 104:14.020] don't even know how many pharmacies, but what I'm assuming from just from off body cam footage and what the cop was saying is it's Ohio. Where's Geechee
—[104:14.240 --> 104:22.660] from? Compton, LA. Oh yeah, they in trouble, bro. Them niggas in trouble. Think bail is set at 900, 000? Yeah, they in trouble. That's
—[104:22.660 --> 104:30.760] federal, that's gonna be a federal. So the conversation piece has been about battle rappers, how much they make, and what they
—[104:30.760 --> 104:39.220] do when they're away from battle rap. Like, do you guys have any thoughts about this? Of course. Give me a little something, Trace. Well, 1,
—[104:40.240 --> 104:48.480] people, there was a spike in money in battle rap and that came right around the pandemic. Caffeine? Caffeine. Caffeine. Caffeine.
—[104:49.320 --> 104:57.440] And once that bubble burst, the money was gone. Like you hear Battle Rapper said, Smack said it, like they, you know, that money's not
—[104:57.440 --> 105:05.840] here. So the numbers that they used to get, I mean, battle rappers was getting 30, 40, 50 grand of battle. Mm-hmm. Jesus, how much are they getting now?
—[105:06.280 --> 105:14.840] Not that. Not that. Like, you- Like, single digits? Like, 345? Dude's might be getting, no, no, no. Dude's probably getting now
—[105:14.840 --> 105:23.240] maybe anywhere from 3, 500 to 15 grand, depending on who you are. Yeah. But you could see it. You could see it in the battle rappers
—[105:23.240 --> 105:31.360] taking much more battles now. And now you start to see different leagues that you might have never heard of. Now he's doing a battle here, then
—[105:31.360 --> 105:39.460] here, then here, then here, then here, because the money slowed up so much. I gotta replace it by working more. All right. Just 1 more
—[105:39.460 --> 105:47.660] question. How many battles a month or a year do they do though? It depends. It depends on the starter. It depends. But I know that like at a time my brother was doing battles, you know, I got a battle
—[105:47.660 --> 105:55.800] this weekend, and then as soon as this 1 is done, I have to prepare, because I got another battle 3 weeks from now. I got another battle 2 weeks from now, something like that. And then there's, then he might
—[105:55.800 --> 106:03.960] not battle again for 4 or 5 months. Got it. He was on the other side getting higher up. I don't know what he's getting at. So your
—[106:03.960 --> 106:12.600] take is ever since caffeine left, the money has kind of left battle rap. So this behavior is acceptable. I'm not saying, no, I never said acceptable. Don't
—[106:12.600 --> 106:20.660] do that. Don't try to gym me up. Can I jump in, guys? Yes, please. Happy birthday. There never was any money in battle rap. So if anything, it's this
—[106:20.660 --> 106:28.780] small little sector where they was making real bread. I feel like the thing, I mean. There was money in battle
—[106:28.780 --> 106:36.960] rap. A lot of money? Yeah. Well, a lot is relative, but yes. A lot is relative being. For a lot of these niggas, what they started getting after caffeine
—[106:36.960 --> 106:45.040] is a lot. Okay. For a lot of people. Okay. What I'm saying is, is that being that battle rappers are
—[106:45.100 --> 106:53.160] typically not music makers as far as like making money as far as on the music. Niggas be great at the battle rap, they'll try to make an album, try to make music, they
—[106:53.160 --> 107:01.440] ass, right? And I feel like with all the energy put into the performances and the props and all that, I just never thought
—[107:01.440 --> 107:09.440] that it was even fair. Like I feel like when you go to a rap show and niggas just stand there and do these niggas give you a real show. You know what I
—[107:09.440 --> 107:17.440] mean? It never made sense that there wasn't like a thing where you could just live, eat off and retire off of Battle Rap. Like I never made any system. Oh, it ain't gonna be that
—[107:17.440 --> 107:25.600] level of money. Right, but I don't know why nobody has kind of corporated, you know, made it corporate, made it like this big business where you can come
—[107:25.600 --> 107:33.760] in and make great money because it's so many people that love Battle Rap, you know what I mean? I think it's all good. Y'all about to venture into a new conversation. I want
—[107:33.820 --> 107:41.940] to specifically speak about Gigi Gotti the situation he's in and what y'all think about that situation I think oh,
—[107:41.940 --> 107:50.060] I'm sorry. I was about to ask ice like So let's just say a battle rapper at the height during caffeine
—[107:50.440 --> 107:58.620] is getting 40, 000. That's good, right? That's pretty good for 3 rounds of battle. No, no, that's amazing. But then you only battling
—[107:58.620 --> 108:07.080] like the dem niggas, Like we know the ones that are them niggas, the surfs, the geekies, the, you know what I'm saying? Let's say you do 2 to 3 battles a year
—[108:07.740 --> 108:15.820] at $40, 000, right? So now you're at a buck 20, depending on where you live at, that ain't necessarily the
—[108:15.820 --> 108:23.920] most money to survive contingent upon what your lifestyle is. And so now these guys sometimes got to do other shit. Now if you not even at the surfing them level and you
—[108:23.920 --> 108:33.500] getting 20, 000 a battle 3 times a year, that's only 60 grand. Like you put in the 3 times a year. Did y'all hear what I said about Geechie Gotti? Listen,
—[108:33.500 --> 108:41.680] let me say something. Can I say something? He's 1 of them. Don't look. Try to spit it out fast. But the whole point of it is that these motherfuckers come from the hood. You already know which battle rappers really connected to the street,
—[108:41.680 --> 108:49.900] gangbangers or whatever. That's what they come from. I come in this, I'm good at this. There's not really much money to make or there's not many many money to be made right what the fuck am I gonna
—[108:49.900 --> 108:57.900] do other than go back to doing what I do so it's like is it a shock to this nigga robbing pharmacies fuck no because when you come to the battle you can't come to the battle looking a
—[108:57.900 --> 109:05.900] fucking mess you can't come you can't push the shit around I think that if these guys would do better if they got assistance in the social media space or
—[109:05.900 --> 109:14.040] Brandon space Because once you have that battle and you kill it and it's viral now You got to make the t-shirts now you got to figure out the meet-and-greet. You know what I mean? It's more money. That's just like
—[109:14.040 --> 109:22.100] Lux Lux has that legendary battle, right? He sold the t-shirts. What was the thing? You know, I mean this work. Let's get this work. He pushed that shit. Every battle rapper don't know
—[109:22.100 --> 109:30.120] to do that. So it's like they're not even utilizing what they've done to get the most money out of Just Pess. This is not just a $40, 000 battle. You can make more money
—[109:30.120 --> 109:38.260] after that. You can host parties. You pop in for a while after you in that battle, correct? But if you don't know how to do that, you from the hood, and all you do know how to do is rap, yeah, you're gonna go back to doing
—[109:38.260 --> 109:46.500] whatever you know how to do. Sidebar pharmacy robbing is very profitable to be honest. Okay, but why? It's a bunch of money in robbing pharmacies, Joe.
—[109:46.500 --> 109:54.740] They make movies about it. No, I was just about to say, like, our lifestyles in
—[109:54.740 --> 110:02.860] the hood be a little expensive. They do. And so let me finish, Joe, let me finish. And so if you take Geechie Gotti or if you take another street
—[110:02.860 --> 110:11.160] person and they don't know other ways to make revenue, they gonna lead back to the streets. The streets is always there. It's unfortunate, but that's where niggas
—[110:11.160 --> 110:19.240] go to is, is the streets. Ain't like you gonna go work a regular job, now you noticeable, you know what I'm saying? Like if he go get a nine-to-five job
—[110:19.240 --> 110:28.320] niggas like yo Get you got he doing stock work at Target or some shit like that Works
—[110:28.320 --> 110:36.380] at Target he cannot so what are we talking about? He doesn't have to work at Target, but I'm coming from a place of a brother. What are we talking about?
—[110:36.380 --> 110:44.380] This nigga went to welding school? This nigga went to welding school? He been to college? That's why he's a battle rapper. He don't have no fucking skills. I'm just saying realistic wise, what else
—[110:44.380 --> 110:52.500] the fuck we think people are going to do? My brother catches bus driver bars to this day and that shit was at least 20
—[110:52.500 --> 111:00.640] something maybe 20 years ago. Mm-hmm if that much but I'm just saying like you can't have Unfortunately perception is everything in battle
—[111:00.640 --> 111:08.660] rap. So to a lot of them niggas, I'm living my raps. I'm not, I see you making it hard. No, let me finish. Won't you just
—[111:08.660 --> 111:16.860] say what you think we should say. Y'all won't shut the fuck up the limit. All right, yeah, let them tell us what we should think. Y'all, y'all are like, Go ahead. Like
—[111:16.860 --> 111:25.040] why don't we attempt to answer the question instead of just leaving it open-ended, hey, when you come from this and this is all you know how to do, what do
—[111:25.040 --> 111:33.100] we expect you to do? I expect mad other things aside from getting in the car with your 3 loser friends full of pills and then
—[111:33.100 --> 111:41.540] running away from the police while you're on probation. Like I think a lot of the hip hop conversations don't address shit head on.
—[111:41.600 --> 111:49.840] Like, got it, we come from where we come from. Got it, we maybe don't wanna go get a regular job. Got it, we on probation. That is not
—[111:49.840 --> 111:58.160] the answer. Let's start with free him. Secondly, everybody makes a mistake. I'm
—[111:58.160 --> 112:06.180] giving them the benefit of the doubt that this is indeed a mistake. But this is 1 of the dumbest mistakes I've ever seen I ain't about to sit here and
—[112:06.180 --> 112:14.280] cap for this nigga this remind me of surf 15 years ago like this remind me of surf ages ago. I feel like I almost looked down
—[112:14.280 --> 112:22.420] on the rapper that does it more than the battle rapper I feel like with being a rapper, you have a way better chance at making real money or figuring out battle rap. I just don't look at it like so. See, but that's another
—[112:22.420 --> 112:30.540] thing. Can we just. Wait, hold up for a minute, Mark. That's another thing you keep saying that I am in complete disagreement with. If you making $10, 000
—[112:31.180 --> 112:39.460] a battle, then go do 15 of them and make a buck 50 a year, and now you're not in this poor class that you keep trying to make.
—[112:39.460 --> 112:47.660] Go ahead. There's the part you missing though. You make it without the education of what to do with that money. What are you gonna do when you get that 150? Real talk. You give a nigga
—[112:47.660 --> 112:55.680] that's never made no money before in his life now you give it them 10 grand of battle you do 15 bad. That's 150. What do you think? He's gonna go do
—[112:55.680 --> 113:03.720] without education at that point The same thing the niggas who ain't in the streets do when you get my that money in my conversation the athlete
—[113:03.720 --> 113:11.880] all of it But if I'm not gonna say no money once you pay taxes. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's the word I'm saying. The policy ain't no money. It's not no money. In
—[113:11.880 --> 113:19.980] my conversation, we don't remain uneducated. But we speaking to someone that obviously, if he was educated, we wouldn't be having this conversation. I don't know
—[113:19.980 --> 113:28.060] that. For him, this might've been an educated decision. I don't know him well enough to be able to say. All I can do is take the facts that came and
—[113:28.060 --> 113:36.080] say, yo brother, what are we on right now? What are we on right now? You don't know him, but does his circumstance have anything to do with where he's from, how he grows
—[113:36.080 --> 113:44.120] up? The fact that he's from an urban area, single mom, does any of that count? Because that's the thing with you is like, to me, you speak from a place of almost like where you think. You have an
—[113:44.120 --> 113:52.460] above average brain, Whether you went to college or not, you're a smart guy, right? No, we was all there. We was all from the same impoverished neighborhood breaking the law. Regardless if you are from the same impoverished neighborhood
—[113:52.460 --> 114:00.880] breaking the law, right? You as a nigga had no business doing it because you had that brain in your head. Some of them niggas you hustle with were fucking slow. No, I had no business doing it because I rapped.
—[114:01.020 --> 114:09.060] What are we talking about? I had no business doing it because I rapped and I was great. But you're smart. And I quickly learned, well yeah, I'm not saying that he ain't smart, so I don't know that. There's plenty of smart people, but
—[114:09.060 --> 114:17.120] I'm not saying that. Listen, when I say the smart thing, this is why I say it. If you come from the ghetto, what do we know? We know that those schools are bullshit. That's a fact. If you come from
—[114:17.120 --> 114:25.240] the ghetto, what do we know? That you're impoverished. That's a fact. So with those things, to make it out of that situation, you have to be an above average thinker. You have to
—[114:25.240 --> 114:33.260] be a little smarter than the rest. So when people like you talk, somebody that I think is intelligent, meaning without college, without rap, without whatever, you think different,
—[114:33.260 --> 114:41.480] just because how your brain works. You can't put yourself in the places because you in the ghetto already had a leg up because of the brain you got. It's not true. That's not true. Through genetics,
—[114:41.480 --> 114:49.840] that's my opinion. Real quick. It's not true neither. I think if you're an average guy, it's harder for you to make it. That's my personal opinion. Mona, a lot of that shit gotta do with luck. If Joe
—[114:49.840 --> 114:57.920] would've got caught doing some of the shit that Joe might've been doing, he might've got sent up. And your life changes based on some of those things. Now, you pump it up, might've never
—[114:57.920 --> 115:06.020] got heard. So if you don't get the- Made. Made, that's what I'm saying. So if you don't get some of the breaks that you caught, some of the lucky shit that happened in your life,
—[115:06.020 --> 115:14.060] the right place, the right time, an introduction to somebody, life changes for everybody, my nigga. And so we sit around and we judge sometimes based
—[115:14.060 --> 115:22.100] on what we did with our lives, but a lot of that shit was lucky. Nick, I got shot point blank range. I was 20 years old. I was a fucking child prodigy. I got shot point
—[115:22.100 --> 115:30.180] blank range right here, 2 times. I could have been not talking on this microphone right now based on a luck of the draw, a flip of a coin. So I'm not gonna judge somebody
—[115:30.180 --> 115:38.560] else and say that they couldn't be going down this path because I could have been on that path if a few things changed Joe your own your own your own song
—[115:38.560 --> 115:46.760] if all else fails You say if all else fails, I go back to what I know. Yeah, that's what happened. That's not what happened That is what happened.
—[115:46.760 --> 115:55.020] That's where we are having our fundamental disagreement. How do you think? All else did not fail. Fair. All else didn't fail. For you. For him.
—[115:55.080 --> 116:04.060] For him. How do you know that? How do you all figure that? Because he still make, for me, that's part of the problem. We're going to come back to this child prodigy thing. It's
—[116:04.060 --> 116:12.540] just a serious conversation right now. We were all thinking it, come on. But
—[116:12.540 --> 116:20.560] like, to say all else fail, For him, I think we got an I agree with everything you're saying about People's circumstances how they raise shapes
—[116:20.560 --> 116:28.620] the decision to draw Sometimes no 1 do seen us in them is luck I mean, so we'll I don't ever get too high and mighty about that But
—[116:28.620 --> 116:36.960] I don't want to normalize this idea that they don't make enough or they don't have enough. I get how the society makes them think that. Who's normalizing that?
—[116:37.200 --> 116:45.640] No, I'm not. I'm not even speaking to you in particular, but a lot of the conversation is similar, was that like 120, you don't have to tax or
—[116:45.640 --> 116:53.660] 60. Most of the fucking world makes $60, 000. They make country, excuse me. Or less. Or less, and if you make 120, you're fine. We
—[116:53.660 --> 117:01.800] gotta stop reinforcing this idea that the 120 that they're making actually isn't enough for them to have their life. If you could make $120, 000 working 3 nights. But Mark.
—[117:02.220 --> 117:10.600] Fuck that you won. But Mark what does that mean? I'm with you. Yeah how do we get to all else family? That's not all I'm saying. Isn't
—[117:10.600 --> 117:18.740] his 120 or 150 different being that he is a public figure? Yes and that's the shit that y'all are. So he can't fucking wear targets, sweatsuits with the fresh blue balances. Yarlow willfully
—[117:19.520 --> 117:27.880] ignoring that point. Skip the best, he's a celebrity. When you get on the mic and crack on niggas for not being able to fly economy or first class etc etc, you geechy goddy
—[117:27.880 --> 117:36.160] now. You are a public figure now. You crack on us nigga. Let me finish. Let me finish please. Yo, you crack on us. It's a certain standard
—[117:36.160 --> 117:44.520] that now once you are famous everybody's living. We not gonna sit here and act like. No no no no. Y'all mute up and let him finish.
—[117:44.520 --> 117:52.840] We not gonna sit here and act like expectations don't fall upon people that reach a certain level of starving because they do, especially in our neighborhoods. My response
—[117:53.020 --> 118:01.140] to what you're saying is if you are thinking about
—[118:01.300 --> 118:09.300] your fame and how it's relative to why you can't get a job, then you should also be thinking about your fame and how it's relative to why you can't get a job, then you should also be thinking about your fame
—[118:09.300 --> 118:17.540] and how it's relative to why you should not be robbing a string of pharmacies and getting in a Camry with 3 other niggas and then
—[118:17.540 --> 118:30.080] running off you're not even a runner You can't Did
—[118:30.080 --> 118:38.240] you see the video Mark? No! They, they, yo you're not even a getaway driver. Yo, it was good bro. They got you. I said they laid the thing out, sorry.
—[118:38.240 --> 118:46.440] They got the car. You made it a centimeter. Not even a centimeter. From here to that camera. Like what are we doing? We're here. They didn't even want to shoot you.
—[118:46.440 --> 118:54.540] Yo, let me say, yo, no, honestly, Cork. Yo, you run so bad, we not gonna kill you. Yo, we don't even got that. You
—[118:54.540 --> 119:02.540] said it. Yo, I'm not gonna kill you. We got you, buddy. Yo, you're not gonna go nowhere. Yo, hands behind your back, on your knees. You about to make me get tired, just stop,
—[119:02.540 --> 119:10.860] because you can't get away, my man. And you're going to die. Stupid. Listen, and to your point, right? Perfect example, in podcasting, right?
—[119:10.860 --> 119:18.960] That's not a fly thing. That's not something that people podcast, and they sweats, and they let their athletic gear. Let me come up this bitch with my hair not done they dragged me for 10 days about
—[119:18.960 --> 119:27.120] it so the fact that y'all sitting like oh he makes 150 normal people make 150 normal people go to wah-wah and pajamas you can't when you're the better rapper so
—[119:27.120 --> 119:35.180] I'm not saying what I'm saying about you can't is
—[119:35.180 --> 119:43.320] that you go to wah-wah in your pajamas niggas niggas picture next battle that's the thing. This broke ass nigga, why are we acting like, and that's the thing, I sit
—[119:43.320 --> 119:51.440] here, front or not late, and get dragged for front or not being late, and this is a podcast. So I know, frontals are fucking $700 fucking things.
—[119:51.440 --> 119:59.520] These niggas expect me to have fresh hair every friday that shit is expensive so yes I know what that feels like to have to keep up appearances because Damona will
—[119:59.520 --> 120:07.560] wear meek mill braids to the store Damona in the event you and your little bum yeah
—[120:07.560 --> 120:15.720] these are perfect let it get it off yes people expect for you to come on a broadcast with millions of people watching with your frontal done My friend will be done it when it's done
—[120:15.720 --> 120:23.720] to a certain level of done. That's true. Especially after you say it ain't me. If you poll any of these people, I can assure you, they do not
—[120:23.720 --> 120:31.720] want you robbing a string of pharmacies to pay to get your frontal done. I don't think they care how I do it, and that's the thing. All right, all right, all right. No, No, no,
—[120:31.720 --> 120:39.790] no, no. I think she's right. They don't give a fuck! They don't! They just want to be able to criticize you in that way, and that's the first way. And then you gotta think, I'm a podcaster.
—[120:39.790 --> 120:47.940] That don't even really fit in this world, but what better rapper do? We talk shit about each other, you know what I mean? So yes, if you get caught looking straight in the court with some fake shit on.
—[120:48.100 --> 120:56.280] Diamonds, tassels, they're gonna talk shit about you. I know. They're paying you. Oh my God, the world is horrible. This guy standing across from
—[120:56.280 --> 121:04.560] me is talking about me and I made 50 grand to be here. I was just getting ready to say it. What the fuck are you saying, idiot? That's the part that y'all, because again,
—[121:04.620 --> 121:12.700] being there with battle rappers, soon as that shit over, and this nigga could have had you looking crazy up there. Them niggas laughing and joking. Because we
—[121:12.700 --> 121:21.020] all just got paid. We at the club. I sat there with my brother at battles and I'm like, yo, how the fuck are you chilling with them niggas? Yeah. Especially if your brother's giving up. He be killing
—[121:21.020 --> 121:29.640] the niggas. He tell me, yo nigga, we just got paid, we out. How old were you when you got shot? 20. Kid, I was 20
—[121:29.640 --> 121:37.800] something when they put a gun in my head and 16, 17 breaking in houses and just all of the mistakes and all of the shit where I thank God
—[121:37.800 --> 121:46.080] that luck came in like you spoke about. I was young at 46 almost. I can't be wandering in the world saying
—[121:46.080 --> 121:54.680] I need that luck of the draw. Some of this gotta be my thinking, my decision making, my discernment, association brings on affiliation, my
—[121:54.680 --> 122:02.700] friend group, what I'm waking up doing every day, my talks with a higher power, my goals, my focus. No, no, no, it's
—[122:02.700 --> 122:10.840] irresponsible of hip hop to keep saying, yo, at 40, and I don't know how old Gitchy Gotti is because I didn't Google it. At 40, where we come
—[122:10.840 --> 122:19.000] from, and yo, my perspective, when I walk into Walgreens with the pajama pants on, Yo, listen up, audience, listen up. Nobody
—[122:19.060 --> 122:27.180] has, no rapper has walked in Walgreens bummier than me. None of them. None
—[122:27.180 --> 122:35.660] of 1 of them. CBS, you name it. Nobody. They know you and they said you're pretty bummy. They
—[122:35.660 --> 122:43.720] both said you were bummy most of your life. Let me ask you a question. Hold up, Joe. Hold up, Joe. I'm segueing. No, no, no. Let me ask you a question. Well done. Let me ask you a
—[122:43.720 --> 122:51.780] question. Joe today, right? Joe today is a definitely a different Joe of yesteryear based
—[122:51.780 --> 122:59.840] on how the world is perceiving you. Would you agree with that? No, I would stop it after Joe is a different
—[122:59.840 --> 123:07.888] Joe then I wouldn't say based on how to work, based on everything. No, I'm just saying about how you present outside. It's different, bro. We've been around you for 20 joints. Oh, yeah,
—[123:07.888 --> 123:15.920] no, I sent my girl to Walgreens, man. It's different. So what I'm saying is- I ain't stepping in Walgreens. No, but you crazy. I get what you're saying. I don't think you're wrong
—[123:15.920 --> 123:23.940] about, I think the world, the standard changes when you're in the public eye. It is, bro. And expectations, I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm just saying that can't be the
—[123:23.940 --> 123:31.960] end of it. True, it shouldn't be. And I feel like sometimes we accept the behavior by saying, well, he is in public eyes, we gotta do this. That's how I feel about what
—[123:31.960 --> 123:39.960] they're saying. We all 3 think it's dumb. We all think 3 think he didn't think that thing through. We all think it's stupid. Me, I
—[123:39.960 --> 123:48.060] would have appreciated if the pharmacy robbery ring got busted and then they found out months later that he was the chess piece guy. That I can appreciate, that type of crowd. But that's
—[123:48.060 --> 123:56.260] what I was trying to get to. You saying why this happened, this might have been the sixth time. This might have been the 14th time and they've been getting it off and got completely. I know,
—[123:57.120 --> 124:05.180] I'm tight on words right now. I know how we can get it because we've done this in the past. Cool, let's go make this quick run real quick. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, we got it all. I'm
—[124:05.180 --> 124:13.600] not championing dumb criminals. No, no, no, you're the 1 who's championing it out there. Just like how you, hold on, hold on. Because what you're saying, let me tell you how I'm interpreting
—[124:13.740 --> 124:22.020] what you're saying is a dumb criminal. It's akin for me to, they gonna clown me, but I'm saying my example
—[124:22.020 --> 124:30.160] anyway. The bartender that's 30, that, yo, I'm getting out at 31. Yo, I'm getting out at 32. I'm getting out at
—[124:30.160 --> 124:38.300] 33. But the fast money is so great. None of that's happening anytime soon like so so the criminal that's like Yo, whatever you
—[124:38.300 --> 124:46.380] just said. Yo, I've been getting this off. I'm gonna get it off again. Yo, I got this off in Cincinnati I'm gonna get it off again.
—[124:46.380 --> 124:54.660] At what point and at what age does that thinking change is what I'm asking. Answer me first before you go on your end.
—[124:54.660 --> 125:02.660] Well, I just responded to something else. You want? I can answer you. Anybody answer me please. 1, it don't ever change until you find something
—[125:02.660 --> 125:10.660] else to supplement that income. And that's the gift and the curse of the streets. The same way as the gift and the curse of the bartender chicks. Until you find something else
—[125:10.660 --> 125:18.900] that can, 1 of my niggas lost his job, and he was like, yo dog, back to the streets. The streets are always there for me. Always there. Always on. I disagree with that. So until you find
—[125:18.900 --> 125:27.320] something else that supplements that income, so now we see, especially in New York, it's a worldwide broadcast, I can only speak for New York. Now you see all the old bartenders,
—[125:27.440 --> 125:36.420] all the old strippers getting into the real estate game. Selling Frenchies. They all selling Frenchies. They greet us, they all know we're here. They
—[125:36.420 --> 125:44.420] sell the fruit, they make me work. I know shit. I'm the ghetto whisper. I disagree
—[125:44.420 --> 125:52.440] with what you're saying because you know why? In my experience, when people change, the answer to that is when you grow up to a certain extent when you get baptized or You
—[125:52.440 --> 126:00.640] take your how to where you make that decision where I don't do shit like that because I don't want to be a part of Shit like that I've seen people change on that know where you get to a certain level whether
—[126:00.640 --> 126:09.060] it's maturity whether it's loving God loving the world or Whatever where I don't do that anymore And a lot of times when you do those, make those better changes for yourself, you
—[126:09.060 --> 126:17.100] kind of draw positivity in and then you get this new career. Or it be a close call, keep going or you get caught. Or it go wrong. That is a very small number.
—[126:17.100 --> 126:25.240] I'm saying in my experience, it's like the diehard street niggas I knew, they did not make money in real estate first and then switch. Those niggas made
—[126:25.240 --> 126:33.240] a decision, they was broke as fuck, and then they were blessed with whatever the next hustle was. Because in a way, you have to kind of make that thing where I don't do this no more. I don't give
—[126:33.240 --> 126:41.320] a fuck. What happens, I'm not selling poison to my community. I don't care what happens, I'm not risking my life by robbing the bank. I'm not doing that. You know what I mean? I love
—[126:41.320 --> 126:49.600] my life more. I care about my kids, whatever that thing is. And then, you know, things change positively. As far as when I seen die hard real street niggas change
—[126:49.600 --> 126:57.660] I never really seen You know it happened just because they tried something legal and they're working. It's like oh, let me do this because greece And then you want the money from I would like to add to that too because the
—[126:57.660 --> 127:05.920] other part that's blurry For me is Like it said the streets are always there. Always there and always on Refer to it
—[127:05.920 --> 127:14.280] as you need, right? And I know I'm old so I'll say in my day the streets were the
—[127:14.840 --> 127:22.960] barrier for entry and then once the street niggas like most of the street niggas that was doing street shit they didn't have something else to
—[127:22.960 --> 127:33.040] do they didn't have something else to fall back on so correct the pivot that I talked about look at him look at him well that's where I'm
—[127:33.040 --> 127:41.400] making the differentiation okay cool you may have started in the street. Now you have found your
—[127:41.400 --> 127:49.440] purpose. I'm calling it his purpose because that's how good he is at it. He's great. He's great. He's 1 of the best. Yes. Clearly. And if you believe
—[127:49.440 --> 127:57.540] in that and you want to truly give yourself a shot, then when do you not rob the pharmacy? Even though that's where you
—[127:57.540 --> 128:05.760] came from. You're asking for a lot though sometimes, Joe. Let me tell you why. I'm asking for a lot to save yourself. No, no, no, no save the best in the world
—[128:05.760 --> 128:13.980] No, no, no, no, no again. This person. I don't know how many children he got a wife He got I don't know which people you're supporting and again once that
—[128:13.980 --> 128:22.120] money slows up that you was getting hold on Let's try that money slows up The bills don't stop. Let's try it this way, because we know Gigi Gotti,
—[128:22.120 --> 128:30.240] but let's try it a different way. Okay. If Surf comes home and he's coming home. Correct. Surf actually, I love you. This week. Any day now.
—[128:30.240 --> 128:38.300] Welcome home, nigga. And 3 months later, he's the 1 that, he's the 1
—[128:38.300 --> 128:46.860] that pharmacies robbing, he was in the car, they tried to get away from the cops, he ran, they caught him, he's back in jail. What would our message have been to him?
—[128:46.860 --> 128:55.260] You dumb bitch. Of course. Y'all with curse on the fuck out, that's y'all people. Who you talking to? All of us in here. All of us in here. Personally, I don't mean on air.
—[128:55.340 --> 129:03.420] No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't mean on a podcast. It would be. We know him, we love him, that's our brother. What would our message be to him? I'm about to tell you. I can tell you what mine would be. You're fucking ridiculous. Him, his
—[129:03.420 --> 129:11.760] whole family know what mine would be. So I ain't even got to go. And I look at, and I'm looking at Geechie like that. We would look at Surf a certain way,
—[129:12.040 --> 129:20.160] right? Because we think he has an alternative. No, he has 1. I know. Why you say
—[129:20.160 --> 129:28.160] we think? Listen, because I'm trying to be objective. We will look at Surf as that type of way because we think he has an alternative, which is he could come up here
—[129:28.160 --> 129:36.160] if he needs money, he can do other things. He could rap and give a mozzie, he's networking sources. So if somebody necessarily does
—[129:36.160 --> 129:44.420] not have the capability of generating enough income to take care of them and their family, that's when the plan Bs, plan Cs,
—[129:44.420 --> 129:52.460] plan Ds come in. For a lot of people, I think we lose insight of that. And I think we simplify in the fact that, yo, you could just go out and make some money somewhere and
—[129:52.460 --> 130:00.460] everybody don't necessarily have that ability to go make enough money to sustain them and their families. Okay, I think it's just what's enough. There's only 2
—[130:00.460 --> 130:09.160] jobs in middle of the streets. Let me reply to that. And battle rap. I think that is, I think that is a phenomenal point that you just raised. My
—[130:09.160 --> 130:17.260] counter to that is people have to give themselves a shot. So if you're telling me that you're not
—[130:17.260 --> 130:25.400] able to make any money from your talent, I know mad people that got talent and don't have a manager, don't have a road manager, don't
—[130:25.400 --> 130:33.640] have this or don't have some of the ancillary pieces that you need to help get your talent where it needs to go. I would urge you to try to find those pieces
—[130:33.640 --> 130:41.960] and exhaust all options before we get to let's rob the pharmacies and get in the Camry with these 3 loser niggas
—[130:41.960 --> 130:50.040] and try to run on foot. I think both could be taken place simultaneously. I think that- But in the event- Bill still get come every 30 days. In the event
—[130:50.040 --> 130:58.340] you don't have them people, in the event you didn't get to find these people that you speak of, and now I get desperate, cause that's what happens. Desperation
—[130:58.520 --> 131:06.880] start to set in, and niggas, now I gotta make something shake. Now it ain't time for, I could get a manager, I could go do this, I could go do this. Now I'm desperate.
—[131:07.160 --> 131:15.180] So once I'm desperate. Desperation yields beautiful results in art, not so much in real life. Take your desperation, go lock
—[131:15.180 --> 131:23.260] yourself in a small fucking shed or room or basement and and make something. I have a question for you right? As a person
—[131:23.260 --> 131:32.140] that... As a person that... Asking a rap at a ramp. As a person that has had success. Asking a father to not feed their kids. You're not feeding your kids! Joe,
—[131:32.300 --> 131:40.300] hit me out. While you locked in the shed, working on yourself, you working on yourself, you trying to find a manager, you trying to do all of the
—[131:40.300 --> 131:48.420] things you saying that I'm agreeing with you, because I don't want to act like I'm caping for the niggas doing crime. We're not caping. What I'm saying is- I'm not at all. Well, I'm only keep pushing back because some
—[131:48.420 --> 131:56.580] of it begins to sound that way. Yeah I know and that's why I said I'm not caping. I was just gonna say real fast, you know how you watch them documentaries to understand like the mind of the
—[131:56.580 --> 132:04.820] murderer. You're missing a minute talking. You know how you always watch the killer doc cause you just be wanting to know why they did certain things you try to understand.
—[132:05.160 --> 132:13.440] Not saying it was right. That's all we doing is just, I can understand what led you to make these decisions. I can understand that. It's
—[132:13.440 --> 132:21.860] not right. I'm not condoning it, But I could understand why, how a person like him could end up doing that. I get it.
—[132:22.260 --> 132:30.260] I'm not saying it's right. I have a question. Excuse me. Everybody check it for me. I understand it too. The next time I see him,
—[132:30.320 --> 132:38.420] I'm going to dap him and talk to him about how stupid I think the move was. True. I'm not gonna champion it. I ain't gonna
—[132:38.420 --> 132:46.440] say, oh, you almost, it's not gonna be like laughing or joking matter to me. I love him, care about him. And again, he's 1 of
—[132:46.440 --> 132:54.600] the more talented, it ain't like we saying this about some loser nigga, I would tell him to go rob all the percocet in the world. You know who else gonna
—[132:54.600 --> 133:02.660] sit there and have the conversation and think how stupid this was and damn him. Him. Yeah. Right now. He's having that conversation. He can't eat. Fuck. Why
—[133:02.660 --> 133:10.740] did I do that? You don't think he regret that? I don't know if he regrets it. 1, and the moral of my story is to get
—[133:10.740 --> 133:18.740] him to a certain point before that point comes. Before we get to I regret it and I don't have another chance, like let's do some different
—[133:18.740 --> 133:26.760] thoughts back to you. My question is, as a person that has had success, in success they came with fame in 2 ways, with rapping and with this,
—[133:26.760 --> 133:34.960] right? What nigga? I'm listening. You the pump it up guy. That's how my brain goes. Okay, I'm sorry. So I do think, my question for all y'all,
—[133:34.960 --> 133:43.040] but especially you is at some point does fame kind of work against you? Meaning like I'm famous as fuck for what I did right? Just like I know I'm
—[133:43.040 --> 133:51.100] sure you know plenty of rappers that had some success and then they fell off but they're still famous okay when you get to that point if you do not
—[133:51.100 --> 133:59.100] want to stay in entertainment or you do not know how to hustle off the entertainment you kind of put yourself in this box because you're fucking famous so work in
—[133:59.100 --> 134:07.180] certain jobs and let's say like like Perk said why you got to work at Target cool but even if you work at the fucking warehouse, your supervisor treat you funny because you're
—[134:07.180 --> 134:15.420] fucking famous. So that's what I'm saying, as a famous person, because you've been famous for a long time. Some people- I understand your question. Is
—[134:15.420 --> 134:23.800] your name? I understand your question. I'm ill-equipped to answer it because money to me was more important than my pride. So
—[134:23.960 --> 134:32.360] I was broke as a rapper. If I had to go to the warehouse, I was down to do it. And if niggas was going to talk, I was. It's not capped.
—[134:32.360 --> 134:40.580] It's not capped. Did you work between them times? I'm just curious. Did you work anywhere between the times of Joe Button broke rapper to Joe Button podcast?
—[134:40.800 --> 134:49.200] Did you get fucking jobs? Work as in normal people with post office CVS? Like you just said. No, but I did things for money pause that
—[134:49.200 --> 134:57.380] I didn't want to do. True. And sometimes you had to be coerced into doing some of that shit. Cause I remember some of the conversations where, nigga, we, the lights is off.
—[134:57.380 --> 135:05.580] You gotta go do X, Y, and Z. So you did have pride. And the coercion is from his village that he was blessed to have. There you go. Okay, let's get to it. That's all I'm saying. And you did have
—[135:05.580 --> 135:13.680] pride. It's time to Cory's manager, Cory argued with you like, no nigga, we gotta go do this. We don't have a fucking choice. And the coercion was like, all right,
—[135:13.680 --> 135:21.860] yeah, you right. I don't, yes. But you had the pride initially and didn't wanna do it. I don't understand how you relate that to the illegal shit. No, no, no, I didn't say illegal. I'm talking
—[135:21.860 --> 135:30.000] about the pride. You said pride always for you, I mean money came before pride. And I said that was capital. Yeah, and then it's time to tuck your pride in your pocket and. After niggas
—[135:30.000 --> 135:38.120] get on your ass. That's all I'm talking about. But everybody skipped my question. And my question was, is there a time where fame works against you? Because in my mind, I'm a hustler.
—[135:38.220 --> 135:46.240] So my fame is always going to work for me. I don't give a fuck about having to do meet and greets at Disney World and Dornie Park. I'm doing that shit, but I'm a hustler. So I know a lot of
—[135:46.240 --> 135:54.360] people on the other end I did this shit. I was good at it I need to try and again is too hard But I want to move on do what I normally do and I used to work at supermarkets now I fucking can't that's what
—[135:54.360 --> 136:02.760] I'm saying, but it's niggas like Fame Door dad shit like it happens
—[136:02.780 --> 136:10.840] people overwrite their fame bro, like someone no disrespect to Gichi Gotti there might be 1 person that sees him in the fucking back room at
—[136:10.840 --> 136:19.600] a corporate office and takes a picture. He ain't working here though baby. Or the car wash. Or what? Car wash, just try to survive. He knows who he is, No disrespect to him. Right. It's
—[136:19.600 --> 136:27.740] okay. Yeah. You can get a regular job, yo. And to them, they say, I do that and all of that, or I go hit this quick lick right here
—[136:27.820 --> 136:35.820] and boom. And a lot of them will choose the quick lick. And if that thinking makes sense to you, then have a blast. You gotta live with the consequences. Yeah, exactly. You
—[136:35.820 --> 136:43.940] have to live with the consequences. You gotta live with the consequences. That sucks, man. Praying for that brother. It sucks to be 1 of the best rappers in the world in jail, though. That sucks, yeah. Because them niggas is lining
—[136:43.940 --> 136:52.080] up begging that nigga to rap right now. Come on, street boy horse. Sometimes that street money don't even be the most money either. Say what you say, Burks? So sometimes that street money don't be the most money. He sounds like you.
—[136:52.080 --> 137:00.200] It's not a lot of money. But that was a lot of money. And be clear, right? Like in rap, because I don't speak for
—[137:00.200 --> 137:08.260] the top 5% that rapped and made it. Like I speak for the field where you rap to
—[137:08.260 --> 137:16.620] earn yourself another day and another shot and another chance and another deal and another brown bag feature and another hosting and
—[137:16.620 --> 137:24.640] another, you're fighting for the day. That fight is over when I go to jail. I agree it is no more fight. It's
—[137:24.640 --> 137:32.700] also crazy if you were making with the arbitrary figures 150000 dollars a year that battle rapid and this seems like it was a lot of work, but
—[137:32.960 --> 137:41.480] you could potentially end up getting a lick for fucking 5000 dollars and go to jail for 10 years by easy like when you were making. You could make 150000
—[137:41.480 --> 137:50.380] dollars like it's like yeah. Come on, y'all. Come on. There are Like I said, I could understand what leads to it. I'm not championing. You wouldn't do it. I
—[137:50.380 --> 137:58.440] don't play games against the law. I have 1 more question for y'all. But again, I can't put myself in that situation. He came up
—[137:58.440 --> 138:06.640] in that. So they look, his whole view of the world could be different from mine. Last question for all y'all if it did come out last question for all y'all if it did
—[138:06.640 --> 138:14.680] come out that instead of him actually in the camera robbing he just set it up found the pharmacies he was like the boss of it so sit like that usually come out to watch after
—[138:14.680 --> 138:22.960] trial. The boss wouldn't be in the car. I know I got it. I put that in the car. I just see it. Would it change? If it came out months later at trial,
—[138:23.140 --> 138:31.170] that he was the 1 putting the, you know, getting niggas together, getting the rental cars, bringing them, would he be less dumb? No. Bro, we sat here, niggas sat there and called Max dumb for the
—[138:31.170 --> 138:39.180] same shit for that whole situation. He wasn't there. Was nowhere near when that happened. And people called him dumb for that situation. It was some dumb shit that happened in that
—[138:39.180 --> 138:47.260] situation. He was not there, wasn't even in the state. And they still called him dumb. And they still called him dumb. Because why? Perception. You
—[138:47.260 --> 138:55.440] on these blogs, you doing all of this, you look like this, you always showing all this money, and that's what y'all did? Or that's what your peoples did? It's
—[138:55.440 --> 139:03.780] the same thing. Like, whether you're there or not, we're gonna view it the same way. And don't let my commentary misconstrue where I'm at with it. Free Geechie Gotti,
—[139:03.780 --> 139:11.880] and I do think that that's a mistake and he deserves another chance, but at some point, this shit is stupid. It is. I think the whole mentality, it's deeper than that. It's
—[139:11.880 --> 139:20.080] the mentality. How many times have we seen this? We've been doing this in hip hop for, I mean, remember Cool Scene Steady Beat 30 years ago doing this thing? We've been saying this shit forever. At some point, it's like this. If you're gonna run away from the cops, then you should
—[139:20.080 --> 139:28.480] be able to run. You know what? You should be quick. And unfortunately- I was a booster for years and I could not run. I remember running out the mall and the security
—[139:28.480 --> 139:36.600] running at the same speed as me. Well, he was really speed walking, but I was giving it all I had and he said to me like bro Can you just stop and I just I gave it all and when
—[139:36.600 --> 139:44.740] I was I can't write but I use my arms to pump But it you know, I was still a criminal and I still tried to run every time You know that Kevin Hart shit
—[139:44.740 --> 139:53.180] and from the news. He sliced away every Fuck if I'm slow this nigga my trip. It might be my lucky fucking day. I love that y'all brought up
—[139:53.180 --> 140:01.240] luck. I love that y'all brought up luck or being blessed because I never think about that. I often tell people all you have to do, the dream is chasing and work hard and all that. You can be just like me,
—[140:01.240 --> 140:09.300] I'm crazy. No, the truth is, it's a little magic in there. Everybody doesn't have it. Some of y'all sitting there writing those raps and writing those scripts
—[140:09.300 --> 140:17.760] and all that, and that shit's never gonna go anywhere. Every living second, who this applies to anyway, Every living second
—[140:17.900 --> 140:25.940] of a battle rapper's life that this applies to should be focused, every second, every second should be focused
—[140:26.100 --> 140:34.700] on figuring out how to not be paid only an appearance fee for when you show up rap and
—[140:34.700 --> 140:42.980] leave. That applies to all levels of artistry by the way. Yeah. Yeah. All for battle rap. Yeah, true. Yeah, you're right. Probably more so for battle
—[140:42.980 --> 140:51.360] rap because, but yeah, it applies to everybody. Y'all should be figuring out how to be paid from every time
—[140:51.400 --> 140:59.620] someone watches your battle. And some of you have figured that out. Some of y'all have started your own leagues and your
—[140:59.620 --> 141:07.960] own networks. You've started funneling money and paying battle rappers, investing in yourselves. Some of y'all have done it. Some of y'all have taken your notoriety and started
—[141:07.960 --> 141:16.020] other businesses, i.e. Goods, conceited, fuckin' hollow. There are examples in battle rap of
—[141:16.020 --> 141:24.280] successful business models. And there are examples of not so successful business models. The Geechee Gotti business
—[141:24.280 --> 141:32.460] model as it stands is not a work. It's not a working. Find you somebody that know what they doing. You battle
—[141:32.460 --> 141:40.460] rappers don't even pick up the phone and use your fucking resources and think tank and toss ideas around. I've been a fan of this shit for 1000000000 years. 1 of the only
—[141:40.460 --> 141:48.720] niggas that ever called me come do dinner, come have tea, just to float ideas is Lux, who also just so happens to be 1 of the best battle rappers in the world
—[141:48.720 --> 141:56.760] and 1 of the best minds like Why niggas think they got time to play fucking MOOC another 1 like the best in the world are
—[141:56.760 --> 142:05.180] taking the time to figure out All right, it ain't in just showing up to rap Hey the best rappers in music land, real music
—[142:05.180 --> 142:13.300] business, it ain't in just rapping. Like it's in some ownership, it's in my pub, it's in my brand.
—[142:13.300 --> 142:21.320] It's in my- Breaking up the civic full of CDs. Going fucking time to time. Not fucking viking it. Yeah. Burn a CD, rap acapella,
—[142:21.540 --> 142:29.580] nigga, go sell 10 of them, do something, but anything to give yourself another shot. Geechie Gotti, I love you, you're in my prayers, and I hope that you get
—[142:29.580 --> 142:37.760] free and don't do this stupid shit again. I'm not telling you nothing different than I tell my brother, Surf, when he go in. Yo, nigga, enough now. Enough now.
—[142:38.020 --> 142:46.120] We did it. We had all the fun. We did all the crimes. We got ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. We get hangin'. You done. 1 thing, Joe, The best advice that
—[142:46.120 --> 142:54.280] you gave them is when you said it, you mentioned it fast, but you said something about changing the people you roll around with. You really can't hang with the niggas that you did
—[142:54.280 --> 143:02.420] street shit with when you're on this new journey. Because they right there to bring you back. A lot of times, them the niggas that say, man, you heard them, CVS, safes don't work. You know what I mean? Yes! So
—[143:02.420 --> 143:10.680] you changing your friend group changes the fact that that even slides in your mind. When I first started this, I came from outside. I switched my, I built
—[143:10.680 --> 143:18.780] a friend group of creatives because I didn't have that, but that helped. So when I start talking crazy about, yeah, damn, I should rob such-a-such and do such-a-such, they'll be
—[143:18.780 --> 143:26.820] like, bitch, what? Because they didn't come from that. So that's something that you can control on your own, finding new friends. And I think a lot of people make mistakes at trying to do the
—[143:26.820 --> 143:34.920] global domination. You got 30, 000 people that fuck with you, feed them. They will purchase things from you. They will support you. You don't have to worry about getting 1000000000 quadrillion fans when
—[143:34.920 --> 143:43.120] the 30, 000 you have will pay you. They'll tip you, they'll give you whatever. You know what? I agree with everything Mona says. You know what else would be
—[143:43.120 --> 143:51.900] of a major service? Like, just looking people in the eyes, right? When
—[143:51.900 --> 143:59.980] I was a teenager and we used to plan to go rob the gas station or rob the fucking Brink's truck
—[143:59.980 --> 144:08.560] or try to, or go to the rich suburban neighborhoods and break in the house, we would be in a trap house right on Clinton Ave. A
—[144:08.560 --> 144:16.640] few of us sit around the table and we would hand out the gigs. All right, you gonna do this at 08:00 and you gonna do this. And It was me and a couple of the
—[144:16.640 --> 144:24.860] homies. And because it was a trap house, it was some crackhead niggas in there. And sometimes little white Bobby would be at the table and they would try to give
—[144:24.860 --> 144:33.040] him a task. Like, yo, when we bus in, you gonna get the door, you time up. And little Bobby would be like, and I could, and I would
—[144:33.100 --> 144:41.400] be like, no you can't. You just gotta look people in the face and recognize who you should and
—[144:41.400 --> 144:49.520] shouldn't be doing a fucking crime with. None of them niggas he ran with look. They
—[144:49.520 --> 144:57.660] look like rats, I didn't tell. What, they look funny? I ain't seen. See y'all, I seen it on the news. I just seen them running, I ain't seen. But again, man. They
—[144:57.660 --> 145:05.740] didn't look like this crime would be successful but you spit but some criminals look
—[145:05.740 --> 145:14.420] successful some criminals do have a not so successful look on them. Free Geechie Gotti, also, that
—[145:14.420 --> 145:22.660] was really stupid. No, it was, I agree. And them niggas used to be stupid too. It's low. You gotta enforce telling niggas
—[145:22.660 --> 145:30.700] when they with stupid niggas. I think niggas know. When they all sitting in there, they know, damn, this is stupid. Niggas had that reflection time. Look at the
—[145:30.700 --> 145:38.700] car first, right? If you was gonna try to escape from the police like you wasn't in the U.S. Oh You wasn't in the like a max sometimes I'd
—[145:38.700 --> 145:46.860] be in a Ferrari and I'd be like, you know what? Ghosties niggas is in a brand new path With shit what I'm saying, but
—[145:46.860 --> 145:55.040] you trying to blend in with the regular car. It was conspicuous Yo, that's the other thing the fed niggas done
—[145:55.040 --> 146:03.140] tracked you from the first Walgreens your dodo But it had the nigga on the airport once he landed. It was like right there. He go. We watching him
—[146:03.140 --> 146:11.220] Yeah, sorry, but you don't know that You think this shit business as usual. That first night in jail, you replay your date. Yeah, you try to figure out where it went wrong. It's the worst, those
—[146:11.220 --> 146:19.320] first couple days are horrible. Keep your head up, boy. Thank God you changed your life. Yeah, cause what? That shit wasn't no joke. It took me an hour in there to know that I wouldn't
—[146:19.320 --> 146:27.540] be trying to return It's a me watching somebody else go and I don't even get like I like that All
—[146:27.540 --> 146:35.580] the girls are fucking you know what I mean, and I don't you know I'm definitely look like the star in the next season of Orange is the New Black. I can't believe they
—[146:35.580 --> 146:43.800] did that movie about boosters without me, but let's move on. You should have been in this fucking movie. Why the fuck wouldn't I be a part of that movie, Kiki Palmer? I'm starting to believe what they say about you, true bitch.
—[146:44.020 --> 146:52.060] Well, it's true what they say about Kiki Palmer. She's an Aquarius. I know she's shitty. They say, when I say they say, I mean me. Right, I know it's you. I be saying mad shit about Kiki Palmer. When
—[146:52.060 --> 147:00.260] I said them, I was saying Joe. I wanted to say Joe. Cause she is another 1. But I get it, we love her, Nickelodeon kids. How do you have a booster movie without, you know?
—[147:01.620 --> 147:10.400] So if you haven't had, if I've ever, if there was ever a day where I was grateful that Up
—[147:10.860 --> 147:18.860] in a state put a stop to something It was this sexy red Michael Jackson. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh,
—[147:18.860 --> 147:26.900] 0 my god. Oh, no, no, no, shut up girl it was the sexy red remake of Michael
—[147:26.900 --> 147:36.280] Jackson's beat it if you've never heard it it's never heard it, so you gotta get to him. Unfortunately, I'm gonna play it for you. Oh, God. Oh,
—[147:36.280 --> 147:44.280] God. Oh, my God. Stop it, stop it. I'm sorry. Stop it. I apologize, Imani, for you even having to sit here. I'm sorry, yo. Just stop it.
—[147:44.280 --> 147:52.740] I'm sorry, bro. I blame us for this. Leashane doing that over a Prince record. You absolutely, it's our fault. And the thing about Sexy is,
—[147:54.640 --> 148:02.720] I remember when sexy was getting featured on sukiyana songs and sukiyana was the bigger star Okay, and she moved to Miami and she
—[148:02.720 --> 148:10.760] really started to hustle. So I really enjoy seeing her shit work like it did, especially in the beginning of it. She just walking down South Beach, talking to people, going viral
—[148:10.760 --> 148:18.840] and it's cause she got this wild ass song or whatever, but that it didn't sound good. I don't know what the fuck the vibe was where we were like fucking with it
—[148:18.840 --> 148:27.040] so heavy because it never really sounded that great and I feel like where her like it's just passed I can't see her getting
—[148:27.040 --> 148:35.140] back there you know what I mean I don't see her talented music never catching another 1 yeah so it's like please well they put it with Bruno Mars and it ain't work still. Never
—[148:35.140 --> 148:43.260] catch, yeah, you're right. Yeah, it's time for her to be. If that don't do it, never catch another 1. This should tell you something more. And she a hustler. I know whatever she does next, reality television, she was sore, you
—[148:43.260 --> 148:51.420] know what I mean? But when she dropped lip glosses, when she dropped lip glosses, She said she watched the hustler? And named them chlamydia and shit like that, and people bought that,
—[148:51.500 --> 148:59.580] like we did that, we did this when she thought she could do that, and Tito wasn't gonna call, you know what I mean, or anybody would like it. But at this point, and that's what I mean when I say she
—[148:59.580 --> 149:07.620] a hustler, I don't even know if this is a hustle because Carisha just dropped a song that was ass so ass that it went viral right You know something something to you see your
—[149:07.620 --> 149:15.940] 2 fingers touching It was hard me when you see your 2 fingers to its T and then it's T. It was bad It was bad,
—[149:15.940 --> 149:24.060] but it was viral. It's denoted because it's viral. Why do you know the
—[149:24.060 --> 149:32.160] look like that? These niggas is unplugged so Amy misses you. We niggas, we got dicks, we're not supposed to know that. Nah, but I say
—[149:32.160 --> 149:40.460] that to say, Sexy Red is such a hustler and I respect her because I watched her do it. I wouldn't be surprised if she dropped something ass to emulate what Miami
—[149:40.460 --> 149:48.500] just did, because she's a trapper. That you get me? Miami just went viral on some, this song is ass. I would not be surprised if she had that in the tux, she
—[149:48.500 --> 149:56.600] knew it was ass, she knew it was gonna get dropped, but it's gonna get people talking about it, because before this, when they be talking about it. Right, nigga, that shit sound like we was playing around in a karaoke bar. Yeah, it's pretty
—[149:56.600 --> 150:04.700] bad. Yeah, it do. That shit is, Michael was over there like, You see this shit? I don't know, Mike was a hood. Mike was
—[150:04.700 --> 150:12.780] looking up like this. Mike wanted to throw something on that. You see this shit? I don't do that in like. No, not that. Where's this fucking thing? You know you got
—[150:12.780 --> 150:20.940] this shit saved. You know the tea when you sit on 2 fingers, touch it, yeah. Yeah, it's not like that. I'm just okay. I'm just chillin'. I don't want
—[150:20.940 --> 150:29.180] it, I don't love that. It's corny, it's bad. But it went viral for being corny. Everybody did their own version of it. And you make my, I know she made bread off that.
—[150:29.180 --> 150:37.320] I know she did, you know, That was a splash for her. I hate all this shit. I don't know, it's over for sexy. But I'm with you though, it's our fault.
—[150:47.980 --> 150:56.140] Careers.ups.com. Stop. Listen, in Jersey City, in the Heights, there's a few
—[150:56.140 --> 151:04.440] pharmacies with low security. Just go hit a pharmacy. Search the niggas
—[151:04.440 --> 151:12.540] on the mission. Hey, Sexy Red, Carisha. Get you and your homegirls. Yo, they got some motherfucking Perks and shit over there. Thompson's Pharmacy. Yeah, yeah. Go hit all
—[151:12.540 --> 151:20.940] of the pharmacies, y'all. Right there on West Side. Right there. They right there. Stop. Don't send the girls to the pharmacy. No, it's over. It's over for them. No, they there. But it's over. There's little mom and pop pharmacies that ain't got the best security. Kareesha
—[151:20.940 --> 151:29.980] look great. And when Puff come on, we'll see what happens with those 2. But it's over. You know it's T when you see them 2 fingers. And
—[151:29.980 --> 151:38.020] I think Sexy Brita is a nice person too. And a lot of people like her, because that new video she just filmed, my girl was in it, Nail Frontier DePage, Janiece, she's in that video,
—[151:38.020 --> 151:46.160] they filmed the video with Chief Keef in it too. Just her having that relationship with Chief Keef, you know what I mean? Chief Keef is- If you're really nice, then you can get to register at Target.
—[151:47.360 --> 151:55.460] They won't just have you in the aisles where they put the rude Target workers. You have them niggas with a toy aisle at. They just keep walking by. I don't know how I'm working at
—[151:55.460 --> 152:03.468] department. They can read the sign and say toy. My last, I told you my last few times at Target was when that smile rule got passed. I was stepping to them. Ain't you supposed to be smiling at me? Yo, you. Ain't you supposed to be smiling
—[152:03.468 --> 152:11.840] at me? Yo, you. Yeah. Ain't you supposed to be smiling at me, nigga? Fuck that. What the fuck going on? Sexy Red, Kareesha, do us a favor, please. Honestly, sorry
—[152:11.880 --> 152:20.020] Larry Jackson. Well you got Kanye coming out, you don't care, nigga. Yeah, he can't. I ain't seen a Sexy Red, Larry Jackson picture in ages. Can y'all see Kareesha coming back? Coming back where? As far as doing music
—[152:20.020 --> 152:28.480] by herself. You almost got, I'm glad you said it. Cause I almost did it. Carisha, you're done. There's a few other female rappers that are done.
—[152:28.610 --> 152:36.760] I won't name them. Let's list them. Nope. I won't name them. It's a couple of them. We ain't going to hear a few songs from
—[152:36.760 --> 152:44.820] a few female rappers. We're not going to hear no song. At all. Not a few. They looking happy, though. That's why I can't
—[152:44.820 --> 152:52.960] play with them, because he got to go do that. Why? I said they look happy. Yo, you don't just need a, sometimes more
—[152:52.960 --> 153:01.020] than a song can make you happy. You right. You know it's T when you see them 2 fingers touching. See, That's what I mean about rappers
—[153:01.020 --> 153:09.380] that don't have a good friend group. Somebody in that studio should have said, bitch, don't just take the new hot lingo off the internet and try to put it on the chorus. Why
—[153:09.380 --> 153:17.440] not? That's what they've been doing. Why not? But sometimes it don't work. When it don't work, it don't work. But you're saying somebody should tell them not to do it. I'm going to go back to
—[153:17.440 --> 153:25.560] what worked. And you're saying they TikToking it and they flipping and all of that But all negative is every most of success was clowning how it sucks So it wasn't it wasn't like a
—[153:25.560 --> 153:33.660] something that you show you she wasn't happy about it But then it started really going and then you know, she started fucking around with it. Okay. Cardi started
—[153:33.660 --> 153:41.900] her tour the other day and she said some shit about if ICE come, we gonna bear mace them. Yeah. And then the Twitter account
—[153:41.920 --> 153:50.180] of the Homeland Security, bro. Homeland security replied saying, didn't you used to drug men or something that that
—[153:50.180 --> 153:58.220] account shouldn't be saying. Yeah, yeah, cause whatever they said, that account shouldn't be saying that. Yo, that's the White House page
—[153:58.220 --> 154:06.260] be saying wild shit. DHS, They bugging the fuck out now. And they already replied with. She shot back and I liked it. It was a good shot. It was
—[154:06.260 --> 154:14.720] a good shot. It hit. There's only 4, there's only like 4 female rappers I can support now. Yeah, what she said? 4 and a half. She said, well, since y'all talking about, they said something along the lines of,
—[154:14.840 --> 154:23.000] well, This is a, we would, I'm paraphrasing, but we would rather her be doing this than drugging. As long as she doesn't drug and rob our agents, we'll consider that an
—[154:23.000 --> 154:31.000] improvement over her last behavior. Right. And she said. Oh, speaking of drugging. Right. Since we talking about drugging. She wrote Epstein files. Well, how about them Epstein
—[154:31.000 --> 154:39.460] files and them little girls that y'all was drugging in let's talk about that Back to superstar
—[154:39.480 --> 154:47.940] speaking out on shit. Yeah. Yeah. Hey y'all dogs talk. Let's talk about that since y'all want to say something Yeah, Cardi has never been 1 of them tongue-biter kind of people. Cartoon always.
—[154:48.080 --> 154:56.120] And she's intelligent. I feel like ICE from the beginning, they would have those videos
—[154:56.120 --> 155:04.480] made almost like movie clips of them walk and they look like the Terminator. We gon' clean the streets. It's like, what the fuck is going on? The sick part is that
—[155:04.480 --> 155:13.100] they know Americans are dumb and that just that visual alone will have half the country like they're helping us. It looks like a movie, but you look real. Well, that's because the
—[155:13.100 --> 155:21.260] ICE targets, they've already conditioned a lot of America to look at as less than. Y'all not human, so that's why they place you, they call you shit like
—[155:21.260 --> 155:29.340] illegal, or you know what I'm saying, immigrant, like alien. Y'all not on the same level anyway, so you start looking at them ice agents. It's okay to be cruel to them. Yeah,
—[155:29.340 --> 155:37.520] you looking at the ice agents like, yo, y'all doing a good job. Y'all helping clean this shit up. And when you- They play on your fears. And when you, yeah, playing on your fears.
—[155:37.520 --> 155:45.520] So when you initially roll it out as, we going to get all the we going to get all the criminals. We going to get the MS-13s. We going to get these people
—[155:45.520 --> 155:53.640] and these people. You think you're doing a good job. That's the thing until you see them dragging some old lady grandma outside that never committed a crime. And you know the funniest part for that, cause
—[155:53.640 --> 156:01.860] none of that is funny, but I am a comic and I enjoy laughing. The part that's funny in that is that the Latins that happened to vote
—[156:01.860 --> 156:09.880] for him. That believed that they will only take the bad ones. Right, and now they're losing their cousins and their grandmoms and shit. Some of them have left, you
—[156:09.880 --> 156:17.900] know? Like that clip that went viral, she's like, we all love Dono Trunk, right? You know the Rumor is that bitch went back. Or her husband
—[156:17.900 --> 156:26.020] or something. We all vote for Donald Trump. That shit ain't funny now, is it? You got a skirt on now, be careful. You're moving
—[156:26.020 --> 156:34.080] your legs and shit. Mona wanna flash them niggas anyway. Mona is so bad. I know you. She do. She try to show off. Mona know it.
—[156:34.080 --> 156:42.100] She wanna show off that low piercing. 1 I know you, you know these couches. You came in here like, I'm gonna get in these little something something. Not that far, but once I sat here I thought I would like them
—[156:42.100 --> 156:50.100] like that. When I was a kid I did that at ballet. Did you sterilize it? We were all sitting around the circle. Cause you have a daughter. Cause you have a daughter. I was like 5 and I'm sitting
—[156:50.100 --> 156:58.100] with my parents and we in the ballerina thing and we're all in a circle. And I just showed everybody. Why bitches don't be sterilizing their clip rings? I was 4. I
—[156:58.100 --> 157:06.100] don't get no clip ring nigga. I ain't that kinky. Oh. Corny, I ain't that kinky. No nipple rings, none of that. You got to change the Wikipedia then. That should say it's
—[157:06.100 --> 157:15.830] something sitting. Can you get her? Like what the vibe is so good in here? It's my birthday, sis. Word, it's your birthday. A
—[157:20.140 --> 157:28.160] free piercings. Hey, all y'all out there, it's Mona's birthday, throw something in the cash app, yo.
—[157:28.160 --> 157:36.340] Here you go. Cash app. Yo, we didn't put that to bed, begging for cash apps on birthdays. I'm not begging that's so 2018
—[157:36.720 --> 157:45.060] Listen, I put his cash app in his bio. What did you 19th? I've bought the filling right? I said I'm you too old for this shit this birthday. Don't do it
—[157:45.060 --> 157:53.100] don't you fucking do it, right? And I'll walk up to David for my birthday and he close my cash app. Oh, you're scammin'. All right, well look, send it to my cash app, I'll get
—[157:53.100 --> 158:02.080] it to her. They got it. Send it to Ice. Dollar sign officially Ice, I'll get it to her. Send it to Ice. I got you, I got you. Was Anyone here blessed
—[158:02.080 --> 158:10.320] enough to watch the congressional hearing featuring Pam Bondi? What a mess. Yo, my nigga.
—[158:10.800 --> 158:18.940] This might have been a wildest shit. I didn't know what was going on. I just saw some clips going out And I'm like, wait, what's ice? Let me tune in. Fam, they don't give
—[158:18.940 --> 158:26.940] a fuck. That's what I took away. They just think we just, no. They think so
—[158:26.940 --> 158:35.080] the fuck what? I did it and? Like, yeah, what I'm saying, like they don't give a fuck. Like, yo, y'all can't do shit about it. Y'all can't penalize
—[158:35.100 --> 158:43.160] me. I'm being, the big homie got my back. Y'all can't do a fucking thing. Bro, when you start- Interview
—[158:43.160 --> 158:51.420] last week, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche He can't go off script. Said that any victim that wants to speak with the department has done so,
—[158:51.420 --> 158:59.440] hopefully. Well thanks to the incredibly brave people sitting here behind you, we can actually ask them if that's true. Now would the survivors
—[158:59.500 --> 159:07.960] and victims who are here please stand up 1 more time. Just by show of hands, how many of you or your loved ones
—[159:08.540 --> 159:18.260] actually have met with the Department of Justice and provided testimony and evidence? None.
—[159:18.260 --> 159:26.340] And of those of you who have not met, which is everyone, how many of you have reached out either individually or through a lawyer or representative
—[159:27.060 --> 159:35.220] to offer to provide testimony and evidence? No Joe Biden. All of them. And of those of you,
—[159:35.220 --> 159:43.660] all of you who have reached out, how many of you were denied or ignored by the Department of Justice? All of them.
—[159:44.240 --> 159:52.660] And despite the shameful and despicable efforts by Ms. Bondi and her department to intimidate you, how many of you are still willing
—[159:52.660 --> 160:00.900] to speak to the Department of Justice? All of them. Well Ms. Bondi, it looks like you have some more witnesses to talk to.
—[160:00.900 --> 160:08.940] Gentlemen, the time has expired. No, he made use of his time. No, no, no, a lot of them, yeah, them niggas went up there with knowing exactly, I'm getting my shit off. And listen, they are. And they got
—[160:08.940 --> 160:17.080] it off. Those survivors are so strong, like shout out to them, send love to them. You know, the lady Virginia that, you know, took
—[160:17.080 --> 160:25.260] her own life last year, I mean, she was fighting forever. You know what I mean? Imagine being in that fight and knowing what happened to you and knowing it happened to so many people
—[160:25.260 --> 160:33.400] and knowing so many important big wigs know and nobody gives a fuck. And she gave up, She left 3 kids and a husband this shit is sick And this is white
—[160:33.400 --> 160:41.500] women there I kept stuttering when I was talking about that because I remember when I first even heard about him That you know was young white girls But I didn't know if that was like
—[160:41.600 --> 160:49.740] true facts or not, but it is it's all white girls It's like they don't give a fuck if the white girls if the white girls can't get no help, they don't care. That shit is sick,
—[160:49.740 --> 160:57.780] bro. That shit is sick. I can't even read it. Like, I can't, it's too gross. Yo, some of that shit is, like, when you see some of the reports, most of it is
—[160:57.780 --> 161:06.000] some graphic shit. That shit is, I'm telling you. It's some real, like, worse than, worse than your favorite porn. Yours.
—[161:06.260 --> 161:14.420] I wanna ask, cause I know people at home wanna know, but you're the rest of the smart nigga. Is that picture real that viral picture that little girl? She's blind here kid. I'm not sure. I don't
—[161:14.420 --> 161:22.960] know I haven't seen a verification. I don't know Just can't say yes shit, I don't know. This clip was Charism.
—[161:24.480 --> 161:32.500] Yo Mona is stupid. We podcast, this ain't B&C bro. But he can answer the question, right Mona? We can lie up here though y'all.
—[161:32.520 --> 161:40.580] Go ahead John. So excuse me. This clip was really educational for me. Admittedly, as someone who hasn't
—[161:40.580 --> 161:49.020] kept up with the Epstein Fowls, I kind of have blocked that off. Same. For many reasons,
—[161:49.160 --> 161:57.380] right? I wasn't aware that there were so many survivors. I wasn't. And they've been trying for years to
—[161:57.380 --> 162:06.040] get there, to be heard. I wasn't aware that they have been trying to tell their story, have reached out to give their account of things. After
—[162:06.040 --> 162:14.220] watching this, I did go read up a little bit and I couldn't get very far. Some of the stuff that we've been
—[162:14.220 --> 162:22.840] hearing, let me speak for me, that I've been hearing in passing without reading up on any of it It sounds so unbelievable Yeah,
—[162:22.840 --> 162:31.300] that you would just continue about your day. Mm-hmm, right The stuff that was in there about the dentist
—[162:31.380 --> 162:39.400] room that was set up like a dentist room and they would bring people in there and put them under
—[162:39.400 --> 162:47.440] the anesthesia and then take them and do god knows what to them and then they wouldn't remember anything and when they wake up all they would remember is that they
—[162:47.440 --> 162:55.540] were in the dentist. They were stories in there about furniture made of human
—[162:55.920 --> 163:04.720] skin and bodies. Yep. I believe all that shit, bro. There was shit in there about, yeah, the cream pie, about
—[163:04.720 --> 163:14.160] what they would do to small children. Babies, bro. There were things in there that were, yeah,
—[163:14.160 --> 163:22.180] like I've heard people talk about the eating baby shit, but that shit is in there. Yes. Yes. But it was in there. But on the conspiracy tip, they push it
—[163:22.180 --> 163:30.260] that it's like a democratic thing. And it's anybody that hears it sounds so crazy, but it happened. It's just them. It almost makes me think like, was that a ploy to
—[163:30.260 --> 163:38.360] make it a rumor about other people being in it was happening, you know what I mean? To like spin people, but I'm with Joe. Certain shit sounds so outrageous, the way it is
—[163:38.360 --> 163:46.460] 2026, I automatically don't believe it. No way. It ain't no way niggas is doing that. Bro, niggas doing them, they like that shit. And that's the thing, man. When you get behind
—[163:46.460 --> 163:54.580] the scenes and when you get behind the scenes, and when you get, you know, this isn't about political parties, this is about rich,
—[163:54.820 --> 164:02.980] I mean, Uber rich. Uber rich, thank you. Wealthy. Yeah, people. The ultra, the elites. The most powerful people in the world. The elites. Who, when they have an opportunity,
—[164:03.120 --> 164:11.480] do the most disgusting and depraved things that you can imagine to people, and they do it with absolutely no consequence. And that is really that simple. And
—[164:11.480 --> 164:19.740] Hollywood, Hollywood been telling us. Yeah. Well, that's what Teddy Riley was talking about when he was here, when he said that Michael was trying to save people. He was talking about from Epstein Island in particular.
—[164:20.460 --> 164:28.660] Because Mike's name is in there. Right. I saw a little bit of that. When Teddy was here, I had not understood that. I understood what he was saying. I know exactly what he was saying. Yeah.
—[164:29.060 --> 164:37.100] That is like. Bro, that shit. She couldn't even look at the victims. She didn't even look at them. She didn't acknowledge them. She didn't talk about the stock market.
—[164:37.100 --> 164:45.180] Bro, she didn't acknowledge they existed as a woman. A woman. You didn't acknowledge they existed. And the crazy part is 6 months ago they were saying it was a hoax. And it's
—[164:45.180 --> 164:53.560] nothing there. We not letting nothing go because it ain't nothing there. It doesn't exist. It's 6000000 ages. In a year and a half ago, they ran on, we're going to release all the Epstein
—[164:53.560 --> 165:01.640] files. Until you start seeing the names in the files. Until they saw them files. Right. Yeah, I'm saying that Trump's name is in there more than God's name is in the Bible.
—[165:01.640 --> 165:09.800] 38, 000 times more than Jesus' name in the Bible. I'm going to be real. I am convinced that people that are super racist, like people that they move
—[165:09.800 --> 165:17.920] with the fear tactics about us and all that, they're slow, they're dumb. If you have any kind of intelligence, No matter how diehard of a Trump or you would feel like they think
—[165:17.920 --> 165:27.420] you're done by now It would already clicked that this shit ain't right by now. So the people that are still with him is Policy
—[165:27.620 --> 165:35.660] with racism You have a full allegiance to this guy. You don't give a fuck what he does and that's just it that's why everybody else that was on the fence it's
—[165:35.660 --> 165:43.940] time to get off of it and pick a side this shit is weird this shit is extreme this nigga is a fucking predator that's crazy well I think the report right
—[165:43.940 --> 165:52.020] like think the heavens up above that they didn't want no black and brown babies. Thank God, bro, I hate to say it. No, no, no, they got
—[165:52.020 --> 166:00.120] other, I don't know. Do you know what these people must think of black and brown people
—[166:00.520 --> 166:08.640] to not want to do these heinous acts with black and brown. They do worse. They do worse. They do worse shit with us, Joe. I'm
—[166:09.180 --> 166:17.220] telling you. I saw somebody say, I wish I remembered who said it because it was great. If you said it, retweet that you said it, because
—[166:17.220 --> 166:25.360] you know who I'm talking about. But they would like, once people realized that Pam Bondi is Trump's Ghislaine Maxwell, then you totally understand all of this. That's
—[166:25.360 --> 166:33.840] exactly who it is. And she didn't pledge to fear. And in listening to her, and all of that kinda inhumane white nationalist
—[166:33.920 --> 166:42.040] talk, in listening to Cash Patel, and all of that inhumane white nationalist talk,
—[166:42.620 --> 166:50.720] like they didn't seem like they were trying to be covert about anything. At all, bro, at all. Like if you were, if you were, if you
—[166:50.940 --> 166:59.840] were in any, had any doubt that Trump was appointing who he was appointing to these positions this
—[166:59.840 --> 167:09.060] shit was playing his data with the Elon tweets I know he's not All them niggas is down. Here
—[167:09.060 --> 167:17.320] we go. And your clients are
—[167:17.320 --> 167:25.740] the American people. But to promote justice for the people, you've got to listen to the victims, like the women seated behind you today.
—[167:26.380 --> 167:35.040] Those are just some of the hundreds of survivors of Jeffrey Epstein's global sex trafficking ring who are demanding that the truth be told and
—[167:35.040 --> 167:43.040] are demanding accountability for the abused. I'm gonna pause it. Even them calling it a global sex trafficking ring understates
—[167:43.900 --> 167:52.000] it. Yeah. Facts. It understates what was going on. I'll continue. He's killed. ...Trafficked and raped them. Whether
—[167:52.000 --> 168:00.140] it's Epstein's human trafficking ring or the homicidal governmental violence against citizens in Minneapolis, as attorney
—[168:00.140 --> 168:08.362] general, you're siding with the perpetrators and you're ignoring the victims. That will be your legacy
—[168:08.362 --> 168:16.420] unless you act quickly to change course. You're running a massive Epstein cover up right out of the Department of Justice. You've been
—[168:16.420 --> 168:24.520] ordered by subpoena and by Congress to turn over 6000000 documents, photographs, and videos in that scene. 6000000 is nuts. Turn
—[168:24.520 --> 168:32.960] over 3000000. No, you're not turning over the rest of the shit. You're not turning over the other 3000000 because they're somehow duplicative, but we know that there are actual
—[168:33.260 --> 168:41.640] memo of victim statements in there. And you also took down the Department of Justice's prosecution memo from 2019.
—[168:42.200 --> 168:50.560] So it's clearly not all duplicative, but even if it were, Why not release it? Just release all the duplicative stuff. In the half you did produce,
—[168:51.100 --> 168:59.420] you redacted the names of abusers, enablers, accomplices, and coping spiriters. They redacted names from 3000000 papers. That's
—[168:59.420 --> 169:07.920] crazy. That's why we only got 3000000. Get them cooking. Which is the exact opposite of what the law ordered you to do many kept their torment private even
—[169:07.920 --> 169:16.100] from family and friends but you facts this is craziness names their identities their images
—[169:16.780 --> 169:24.920] on thousands of pages for the world to see. So you ignored the law and even with over 100, 000 employees at
—[169:24.920 --> 169:33.300] your disposal, you acted with some mixture of staggering incompetence. This is not only staggering incompetence.
—[169:34.200 --> 169:42.540] This is disheartening. Even a lot of discouraging to do this point of them only having 3 million out of the 6 million and all of that being redacted,
—[169:42.540 --> 169:50.920] yeah, we did half of it. We redacted what we did. We shot that out. And we'll get the rest out after we finish combing through and redacting that shit. You're
—[169:50.920 --> 169:59.120] going to get what we want you to have. 1 dude said, yo dog, even out of the 3000000 pages, 1 of the, I don't know his name, 1 of the congressmen, he said, dog, 70%
—[169:59.280 --> 170:07.420] of that shit was redacted. The shit was black line, black line, black line, black line, black line, everywhere. Black box Covering this whole shit. Yo the dude that he just
—[170:07.420 --> 170:15.440] appointed. I think his name is Carl Nolan I think no I'm talking about bro. He has all types of thesis papers and all
—[170:15.440 --> 170:23.560] types of racist Jeremy Karl is his name. Tell me how you define white identity and what you think is being erased about white identity. Look at you,
—[170:23.560 --> 170:31.660] you're my son, yo. Certain types of Anglo-derived culture that comes from our history. This is nuts. Listen
—[170:32.520 --> 170:40.520] up. Let me think about this. Senator, I would say if you were to look at the book by
—[170:40.520 --> 170:48.580] 1 of your former Senate colleagues, Warren Fighting, about the sort of Scotch-Irish military culture and certain pride that went
—[170:48.580 --> 170:56.580] with that, that would be 1 example. Obviously, you can have sub-elements of that culture. You could have Italians, you could have Irish, and those are in many ways more
—[170:56.580 --> 171:04.640] interesting. You're worried about white culture. You're now retreating to ethnic identity. You don't speak about ethnic identity. You
—[171:04.640 --> 171:12.980] speak about white identity. So tell me the values that stitch together white identity and then make it different than black
—[171:12.980 --> 171:20.980] identity. I would say that the white church is very different than the black church in terms of its tone and style on average. Foods, foodways
—[171:21.000 --> 171:29.040] could often be different. Music could be different. Music could be different. Well, if you look at the Super
—[171:29.040 --> 171:37.080] Bowl halftime show, which was not in English this year. So our ability to access white churches or white food for white
—[171:37.080 --> 171:45.240] music is being erased. I am concerned with the majority common American culture that we had for some time that through
—[171:45.240 --> 171:53.300] particularly mass immigration I think has become much more balkanized and I think that weakens us. And again, I'm not running away from that comment. I'm
—[171:53.300 --> 172:01.360] not apologizing for it. I'm way over my time. I think you're struggling to answer this question, right? Because underlying your beliefs
—[172:01.360 --> 172:09.400] is a sentiment that white culture is just simply better. Right. Exactly. Right. Right. I love when they
—[172:09.400 --> 172:17.600] just straightforwardly believe it. That's it. Just being frank. That's it. That's it. Right there. That's it. He just got appointed by the president
—[172:17.600 --> 172:25.600] of the United States for a major position in his cabinet, bro What the fuck are we talking about? So all of you stupid black people that be like Trump ain't racist. He not
—[172:25.600 --> 172:34.140] racist He not racist. Yeah, he gone. He just pardoned some football players. He just parted some niggas the other day Jamal Jamal nigga
—[172:34.140 --> 172:42.240] from the NFL that got caught with the 5 birds. I forgot his name, but Jamal something. But anyway, to all the black people that are saying, yo, he not racist, he
—[172:42.240 --> 172:50.340] not racist, he not racist, cool, I'm gonna sit up here and tap dance so I can get y'all stupid motherfuckers votes. But every single person that I'm appointing into office is
—[172:50.340 --> 172:58.380] showing their disdain for the marginalized people. And a lot of black people and Hispanic people, unfortunately, and most whites
—[172:58.380 --> 173:06.780] are marginalized. They don't give a fuck about you. For them to be talking about- Jamal Lewis, he just pardoned him. For them to be talking about a sex trafficking ring and
—[173:06.780 --> 173:15.040] that lady start talking about the state of the economy. The Dow Jones bro. And then got mad at them for talking about
—[173:15.040 --> 173:24.800] What are we talking about? We should be talking about this and y'all are talking about. That's not what we're talking about, ma'am. Ma'am. What kids? Actually, this
—[173:24.800 --> 173:32.840] clip is a little long, but I want to play it from a gentleman that I'll just play it. Yeah, come on. You
—[173:32.840 --> 173:40.840] guys know who Pam Bondi is? The United States Attorney General's the first time I saw her in action yesterday I mean I knew who she was but I didn't know how she
—[173:40.840 --> 173:48.980] was right And she got questioning us today about releasing the names of the traffic that violated
—[173:50.100 --> 173:58.440] former children whose innocence was currency for power but not releasing the names of co-conspirators while survivors sat behind her waiting for the truth.
—[173:58.440 --> 174:06.460] I mean these women, these powerful women. He's giving you a brief update but once he finished his update he won't get to it. Listen to him. Show of moral courage
—[174:06.660 --> 174:14.700] that no 1 in this administration has attempted to match yet. And he's sitting in the park with some trees if you're a bird. Instead of answering questions,
—[174:16.160 --> 174:24.300] she attacked congressional members personally, And then she turned to the stock market. The Dow is over 50, 000 points. The S&P is nearing
—[174:24.300 --> 174:33.840] 7, 000. NASDAQ is smashing records. That's what we should be talking about. It was a deflection so abrupt it felt like a confession. Members
—[174:33.840 --> 174:42.380] of Congress as in a lot of us, I think, ask what does the stock market have to do with anything? Right? And as
—[174:42.380 --> 174:50.500] you saw, Bondi scoffed and married the question and then said, are you kidding me? And people, I
—[174:50.500 --> 174:58.780] believe incorrectly called it a dodge, a non sequitur. I don't think it was. I think it was a glimpse of the plainest truth slipping through, a
—[174:58.780 --> 175:07.080] momentary removal of the veil of decency. Because in her calculus, and in the eyes of those who command her
—[175:07.860 --> 175:15.900] the economy's triumph outweighs the cries of the exploited every single fucking time there me up bars yeah he made this
—[175:15.900 --> 175:24.520] stock market was born and I was done in the same cradle of empire that tracked human beings as cardio. As
—[175:24.520 --> 175:32.560] long as the numbers climb, the moral cost is background noise. That's it. And this is no accident of history. It's the
—[175:32.560 --> 175:40.660] actual architecture of American descent To power refusing to see certain bodies as
—[175:40.660 --> 175:49.020] fully human Now I mean I know a lot of you guys know what the transatlantic slave trade is, but
—[175:49.020 --> 175:57.460] it rose to power, it ignited in the 1500s, right? And the companies that were responsible for scaling it into an intercontinental
—[175:58.420 --> 176:06.900] enterprise Still the biggest companies of that? Became so vast, so profitable, they had to do something that no other companies in human history
—[176:07.660 --> 176:17.960] Had ever done They went public First companies ever do that Literally
—[176:18.160 --> 176:26.480] actually it was here's crazy thing it was called the company because it was the biggest company in the world. So people just called it the company. Think about that.
—[176:27.540 --> 176:35.900] And it was too profitable to remain private. So the Dutch West Indian Company went public in 1621 to fund its
—[176:36.000 --> 176:44.100] empire of extraction and kidnapping. Like today, investors speculated on success. Those who bought shares rooted for the
—[176:44.100 --> 176:53.340] company's victims even though victory was at that
—[176:53.340 --> 177:01.800] time. Inhumanity was not a byproduct. It was the cause. It was the purpose. It was the engine of the machine. That's right. Mm-hmm. Profit required
—[177:01.980 --> 177:11.280] indifference to suffering. Yep. And 1 third of people who were trafficked were under the age of 15. Commodified
—[177:11.380 --> 177:19.520] as labor, property, and yes, sex slaves. And the sugar fields of Barbados,
—[177:19.700 --> 177:27.920] the life expectancy for an enslaved person was 25 years old, burned out by years of relentless toiling and labor
—[177:27.920 --> 177:36.020] and starvation and brutality. And The system just demanded replacement, endless replacement. Let's go, let's go, let's keep moving, let's keep moving. Don't keep them alive, that
—[177:36.020 --> 177:44.020] doesn't matter. Just rape them and work them to death. There's plenty of humans in Africa, or as they would say, plenty of niggers in Africa that we can continue
—[177:44.020 --> 177:52.260] to do this to and exploit the precious gifts of God's breath instilled into their souls and usurp them for financial gain, humans reduced
—[177:52.400 --> 178:00.580] to fractions of profit shares. Bro, it's jail. Yeah. And the crazy
—[178:00.580 --> 178:08.840] part about it is, a love fish. And that's the genius of the market. He's almost done. I think there's a different level of genius too. Turning flesh into fungible
—[178:08.860 --> 178:18.260] assets. To be bought, divided, traded, worked to death and raped. And
—[178:18.260 --> 178:26.320] so now we move on temporarily to child sex trafficking, and it's the same machinery refined. Epstein's network operated in the shadows of
—[178:26.320 --> 178:34.920] that original American capitalistic bargain. And Bondi's slip wasn't a slip, I think it was the mask slipping off. It's all about the bread. This
—[178:34.920 --> 178:43.460] is nuts. The market that made cries for justice, she's revealing the Faustian heart of rapacious capitalism. It's
—[178:43.460 --> 178:51.540] rotten to the core. Endless growth demanding endless sacrifice. Oh God. Back then it was chains. Now it's
—[178:51.540 --> 178:59.780] hidden rooms. Then it was slave ships. Now it's private jets. And yet we live in the illusion that these are separate stories.
—[178:59.800 --> 179:08.040] 1 of wealth, 1 of horror, 1 of the past, 1 of present. And they're not. They're not the same story
—[179:08.140 --> 179:16.300] told in different eras. They're entwined. 1 sustaining the other since the first stocks funded
—[179:16.300 --> 179:25.040] the first slavers and today the same indifference in the doors trafficked women children
—[179:25.040 --> 179:33.180] and people of color the poor they remain disposable Epstein's
—[179:33.240 --> 179:41.600] network was no aberration It was a contemporary echo where elite power trades in silence in innocent bodies. He
—[179:41.600 --> 179:50.120] cooking. No. Bonnie revealed that. He's going to have a... It's a long clip, but I got... No, you gotta let him play. He's cooking. He's cooking. He's cooking.
—[179:50.120 --> 179:58.240] He's cooking. He's cooking. He's cooking. He's cooking. He Resolves the rod on which it is built. Oh God. Yo, his thinking like Shakespeare. Yo, that nigga kicking your ass. Oh, you get that? I'm getting the fuck out of here.
—[179:58.240 --> 180:08.180] The front is. Yo. That's to face ourselves. Not just our past. Not just our present. Also
—[180:08.180 --> 180:17.320] our future. Acknowledging how far we've come by refusing to look down at those the system was built to crush. Has
—[180:17.320 --> 180:25.440] to stop. We have to name it. We have to name the connection because if we keep celebrating the
—[180:25.440 --> 180:33.760] climb while ignoring the backs who bear it. You remain complicit in the oldest Americans
—[180:33.760 --> 180:41.780] in They made us complicit. We cannot heal. We cannot move forward. Past is not prologue when ignored. His brother's name is Macad Brooks.
—[180:41.880 --> 180:49.920] He's a new actor. Y'all know him, right? I've seen him somewhere. He's on the game. He's in a talent show. The next level to me is that
—[180:49.920 --> 180:58.160] the the the stock market is now the the the the onus is now even passed on to us yes because we invest in the stock market
—[180:58.160 --> 181:06.180] people with good jobs have 401ks that benefit from the stock market that he speaks of raising a profitability that's it so the billionaires pass the buck
—[181:06.180 --> 181:14.480] on to the everyday citizen who invests in this game and benefits from this game that's fucking so you're unknowingly complicit or
—[181:15.120 --> 181:23.200] unknowingly benefiting from the entire game correct It's crazy So it makes people not give a fuck because they're
—[181:23.200 --> 181:31.200] earning cuz my money My money is gonna and that's that that's a crazy game That's why when people had that debate about capitalism is
—[181:31.200 --> 181:39.220] really like that's the part that people don't get it's like capitalism always works like somebody's getting fucked that's the only way it works and this
—[181:39.220 --> 181:47.440] government was built the way this country is built the government take care of us we fade the government and they hold us down you know I mean we're supposed to have free health care it's not like a fancy
—[181:47.440 --> 181:55.560] special thing right pay taxes supposed to get health care that's not supposed to go That's why everybody else around the world has it. Well, a lot of people around the world has it. I think people forget that, even
—[181:55.560 --> 182:03.580] when they get on that high horse of, pull yourself up by your bootstraps and work and work. That all may be cool, but when you break your motherfucking leg your government supposed
—[182:03.580 --> 182:11.820] to hold you down That's why you pay taxes. That's the whole point. And you got people like James Vandervee, Rest In Peace, who's got a Go to public funding. I
—[182:11.820 --> 182:20.220] ain't want to Full circles. I ain't want to fuck this up and bring it down, but imagine how much money Dawson's Creek made. It was 1 of the biggest
—[182:20.220 --> 182:28.400] shows in the history of television. He was the man on the show. He was him. He was him on the show and couldn't pay his fucking healthcare bill.
—[182:29.540 --> 182:37.560] That's insanity, my nigga. America. Indicative of us. And what he said about, yo, she said, yo, dawg, all you
—[182:37.560 --> 182:45.560] should be really giving the fuck about is the money It's really how they feel. Yep, and that'd be some of my points I'm yo dog the classes point
—[182:45.560 --> 182:53.700] is 1 that it just gets overlooked with the divide and conquer shit like my nigga they holding everybody they don't give a fuck about us. They give a fuck once
—[182:53.700 --> 183:01.700] you get a certain threshold and get to a certain, come on let that nigga in. Now you cool, now we can kick it with you but other than that fuck you, you're an
—[183:01.700 --> 183:09.760] ant on the ground. Yeah. Collateral damage. Totally understood ignorance is bliss. Yeah bro, seriously. Because
—[183:09.760 --> 183:17.900] this is fucking depressing. That's why you block it out. That's the whole thing. That's why you don't watch it. I don't put this up. Y'all say that, I wasn't looking
—[183:17.900 --> 183:26.040] at that. That's too much for me, and I get it, you know what I mean? Because your mental health support and this shit, I'm somebody that can watch the news and get bummed out to the point of tears, you know
—[183:26.040 --> 183:34.200] what I mean? So I get that. But all that ignoring shit consistently, that's irresponsible, especially as a nigga. I mean, you know, you're gonna come and slavery starts
—[183:34.200 --> 183:42.820] on the 10th If you're not keeping up with the church or no control and I do have to know what's up And that's my point to like yo right now is the Spanish Fan
—[183:43.240 --> 183:51.280] we next we next we are next absolutely they gonna come get you first. And I'm just being honest. Cause you got that ethnic. That's
—[183:51.280 --> 183:59.340] fine. I'm telling you. They gonna have you on that bus saying different phrases and
—[183:59.340 --> 184:07.340] shit to see if you really American. Cause you look a little. They told a nigga in Brooklyn, he told a nigga suck his dick about 100 times, they said,
—[184:07.340 --> 184:15.460] oh yeah, let him go. He from here, he from here. He from here, leave him alone, yo. Nah, the shit is depressing, it's scary. US Steel,
—[184:15.460 --> 184:23.960] all of those companies, dawg, was built off of what he talked about. Yeah. Shout out to McCoy Brooks for that brilliant Did
—[184:23.960 --> 184:32.080] y'all want to talk about did y'all want to talk about The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Oh, your
—[184:32.080 --> 184:40.480] man. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. So Gene Simmons, the bassist from Kiss, from Kiss,
—[184:40.600 --> 184:48.720] said that rap music, hip hop, does not belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Now, fairness, he said other things don't too, like classical music and you know, other
—[184:48.720 --> 184:56.720] things. You said it's not rock and roll, it shouldn't be in there. And just for some more context, Gene Simmons
—[184:56.720 --> 185:04.860] do this shit every couple of years. Like he's been shitting on hip hop specifically. Fuck Gene Simmons. For years. Kids don't got enough slaps for all
—[185:04.860 --> 185:12.880] this. He has. Like y'all was alright, but y'all ain't that. Ice, before this, when he would be talking down
—[185:12.880 --> 185:21.080] on hip hop, he never went like too racist with it. It was just more hip-hop based. I feel like this... This climate. Got these motherfuckers comfortable. Exactly.
—[185:21.160 --> 185:29.380] I feel like every time this nigga office... The same people that used to pull up to the light and look straight and I look at you,
—[185:29.380 --> 185:37.380] they cut you off, they... Nigga. You know, they get a little cold, right? But he says on the interview at 1 point, something about like, well, I'm not
—[185:37.380 --> 185:45.480] from the ghetto. And it's like, nigger you, we know. That was the real telltale. Uh-huh, the ghetto part. That part when he said I'm not from the ghetto. Because his
—[185:45.480 --> 185:53.500] music opinion, because the analogy that he gave was saying, yo, if that's the case, let Led Zeppelin into the hip hop hall of fame. Right?
—[185:53.500 --> 186:01.700] So you might have an argument. When he said the ghetto piece, it was like, oh, okay, now you throwing a certain stigma on hip hop. Irrelevant
—[186:01.700 --> 186:09.960] to his point. Yes. Irrelevant to his point. Way irrelevant to his point. But the real funny shit is, ask him where his mom's is from His mom's is from the real the real
—[186:09.960 --> 186:18.860] ghettos like Nazi Germany like it is shit They escaped it again escape like born in high school in Israel I'm
—[186:18.860 --> 186:26.900] gonna be from there and then say you're not from the ghetto so powerfully is crazy. I mean, let me read this just for context. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, boy. He said, it's not
—[186:26.900 --> 186:34.980] my music. I don't come from the ghetto. It doesn't speak my language. And as I said in print many times, hip hop does not belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nor does opera or symphony orchestras.
—[186:35.160 --> 186:43.160] How come the New York Phil Harmonic doesn't get into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame because it's called the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And then 1 more thing he said he's a bright he's he
—[186:43.160 --> 186:51.180] said Ice Cube and I had a back and forth about this he's a bright guy and I respect what he's done. He shot back that it's the spirit of rock and roll. So Ice Cube and Grandmaster Flash and all these guys are
—[186:51.180 --> 186:59.400] in the rock and roll hall of fame. I just wanna know when Led Zeppelin's gonna be in the hip hop hall of fame. They might be. When Levee breaks his panini.
—[186:59.760 --> 187:07.820] This is the worst argument I've ever heard. Honestly. That was my point. I don't think his argument is bad until he starts to mention the ghetto shit and all
—[187:07.820 --> 187:15.900] of that other stuff. Because to his point, you're the opera not in the Hall of Fame, right? They not gonna go get these genres of music and put it in the Hall of Fame. Cool. When
—[187:15.900 --> 187:24.140] you say the ghetto shit, now you putting the stigma on hip hop music and all hip hop music is not some ghetto shit. There's also been some plenty
—[187:24.140 --> 187:32.140] of rock music that came from the ghetto. Ghetto. A lot of white people live in the ghetto. See, I feel like that's what's happening. Let's say, we all agree
—[187:32.140 --> 187:40.140] that ghetto shit was out of pocket, right? Yes. Let's assume he's the biggest racist in the world. That doesn't change the argument. The argument. Right? If his argument is... None of these other
—[187:40.140 --> 187:48.580] genres. Right, none of these other genres aren't rock and roll, are in the rock and roll hall of fame, why should hip hop be in the rock and roll? That's what I'm wondering. What's the argument for it being in? I'm not really opposed to
—[187:48.580 --> 187:56.760] that. I don't think that that's a bad argument from him. I think it's fair. True. My response to that would be, well, first off,
—[187:56.760 --> 188:05.340] I'm biased. I believe that hip hop belongs anywhere you put it. Part of that is because it encompasses all things.
—[188:06.040 --> 188:14.100] So when you say that OutKast is in hip hop, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, I believe that they should be in there. They have plenty of
—[188:14.100 --> 188:22.240] rock elements in their music. When you talk about Chuck D and Public Enemy being in there more the same, running DMC more the same, some of the hip hop acts, you can't say that
—[188:22.240 --> 188:30.320] for some of the rock and roll acts, that has nothing to do with hip hop. So why would it be in the hip hop all the fame? That makes sense. That would be my response. I also don't have to
—[188:30.320 --> 188:38.580] concrete that, but I get the point, but I wouldn't agree with that. I'm sure there's some rock and roll acts in the Hall of Fame or will be in the future that incorporate hip hop shit into it. So like,
—[188:38.860 --> 188:46.900] what are we even talking about? I hate that the comparison is like, oh well what about the hip hop Hall of Fame? As if the, in my opinion, the rock,
—[188:46.900 --> 188:55.080] the roll Hall of Fame and the hip hop Hall of Fame are on the same levels. You know what I mean? That's why I don't want to be in the rock and roll. My bigger point is I don't want to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the Hip Hop Hall of Fame are on the same levels. You know what I mean? That's why I don't want to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. My bigger point is I don't want to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Fuck them. Fuck
—[188:55.080 --> 189:03.260] their Hall of Fame. Exactly, but it's always like that with us. But why is that their Hall of Fame when we invented Rock and Roll? No, no, no. I don't mean that
—[189:03.260 --> 189:11.420] black people shouldn't be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, because we created it. I'm talking about just hip hop. I'm saying I want hip hop that black people created to be in the Hip Hop Hall of Fame, and I want rock that black people created
—[189:11.420 --> 189:19.440] to be in the Rock Hall of Fame. I'm just saying- There should be a Music Hall of Fame. Yeah, they should just bring in the fuckin' trip. They put everything in there. That's what I'm saying. That's kind of his point
—[189:19.440 --> 189:27.540] though. If this is just the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, if it's the Music Hall of Fame, then yeah, classical, Philharmonic, all of that shit. If we allow it to hip
—[189:27.540 --> 189:36.000] hop, then we should be allowing it all. I would have loved to hear more of that in his messaging about just changing the name with a Hall of Fame versus insulting
—[189:36.100 --> 189:44.340] hip hop and saying I don't come from. And again, like I said, he's constantly, his true thoughts came out. Yeah, that's what it is. To be clear, he said hip hop is just spoken word
—[189:44.340 --> 189:52.340] put to a beat. Like He dismissed hip hop as a genre. It rides on the production. He said, he's over the years have been taking
—[189:52.340 --> 190:00.520] his digs at hip hop. But he's old and he's outdated and he's stupid because at the end of the day, even with the ghetto line, hip hop, I'm not from the ghetto. Hip hop was birthed
—[190:00.520 --> 190:08.560] in the ghetto. Hip hop is fucking huge, billion dollar business in fucking Japan, here and there, whatever. That's, hip hop is not a ghetto
—[190:08.560 --> 190:16.689] thing. It just comes from the ghetto. So I don't get the fucking thing. I think you are about to go hitchhiking. Kiss just ain't got no flash. Dog, my thing. They don't have any outfits. I like that argument. They don't
—[190:16.689 --> 190:25.140] got no. They had to wear face paint, they were so ugly. There's some people who had this conversation. They're all ugly, all of them are very ugly men. That was kind of that thing. Fuck, they,
—[190:25.140 --> 190:33.260] like, I think this is what you was going, like yo dog, fuck they shit. Like yo, have them wanting to come to our shit. Like
—[190:33.260 --> 190:41.320] I don't want to be at they door trying to get into they hall of fame if they don't want us there. Fuck y'all, we going to create our own hall of fame. I'm tired of us being like, yo I want to go to
—[190:41.320 --> 190:49.680] the white school, I want to go to here, I want to go to, fuck they shit. Make our shit elite to where the white people want to come to our school. But to Joe's point, I don't want to normalize
—[190:49.700 --> 190:57.880] the idea that rock and roll is them and hip hop is us. True, you're right, I'm sorry. We are the birthers. We're all a little thing. I don't want to normalize the fact that Kiss has
—[190:57.880 --> 191:05.940] any say in what the fucking rock and roll Hall of Fame has to do with anything. What the fuck are you? You're not the board of it. Rock and roll Hall of Fame, Gene Simmons
—[191:05.940 --> 191:14.400] or kiss. I don't kiss has slaps. Fuck out. They got a couple, but they're not fucking 1 of them. You're not the Rolling Stones. Exactly. They are branding.
—[191:14.760 --> 191:22.780] They're a branded band. That's what they are. You know, the more from their early branders. I don't want his opinions being a reflection. I have nothing to do with
—[191:22.780 --> 191:31.100] the Rock and Roll of Fame, but his opinions are not a reflection of what the Rock and Roll of Fame has to say. I'm curious how the Die Hard Rock of All fans are Kiss fans. That's
—[191:31.100 --> 191:55.100] not your top 10 bands. I love rock and roll. I've never bought a kiss You
—[191:55.100 --> 192:03.620] know, he's gonna issue his point I mean, he's a rock god, you know? But what he fails to realize is that it's the rock and roll ball thing. And
—[192:03.620 --> 192:11.780] everything else other than rock, when rock and roll splintered in the 60s, is the role. And soul music, reggae,
—[192:12.720 --> 192:20.980] hip hop, which is rap music, because hip hop is a culture. Put that on 400. It embodies the sound, story, and style. But
—[192:20.980 --> 192:30.260] music, the vocal on top of the music has already been determined. So that's the role. That's the flow. That's the soul in it. Yeah,
—[192:30.340 --> 192:38.560] kids are rock gods, but They don't have a lot of role to them. I'm black born in 1960 Being told
—[192:38.560 --> 192:46.920] that I don't belong doesn't even faze me I I really realized the opportunity that that I'm
—[192:46.920 --> 192:55.160] able to even be in the music business at all and Thank God for hip-hop and rap music making it possible if somebody would have told
—[192:55.160 --> 193:03.340] me in 12th grade in 1977 that I would be making records or being in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame even or whatever. Number
—[193:03.340 --> 193:11.560] 1, I would have been scratching my head like doing as what, you know? I had no idea. Neutral button! So, you know, we're in a time where everybody's
—[193:11.580 --> 193:19.620] saying everything at the same time. Nobody's really listening. So Gene is going to probably scream out that probably for the rest of his life and you
—[193:19.620 --> 193:27.720] know he's entitled to his opinion and he's dealt in you know into the music for so long that his opinion is probably going to be
—[193:27.720 --> 193:35.720] stuck to him. However you know I've been you know a musicologist of note I'm not a plug guy
—[193:35.720 --> 193:44.180] but I just recently put out this week, and then I taught a UCLA class for 10 weeks on exactly
—[193:44.340 --> 193:52.480] the threads of what the culture is about, how the music is related, not just 100
—[193:52.480 --> 194:00.540] years back, or 150 years back in documentation, but how it goes back maybe 1, 000 years.
—[194:00.580 --> 194:08.800] So, scholarship matters. Those who really were in the middle of the muck Creating
—[194:08.940 --> 194:17.100] something out of nothing you got to consider that too if hip-hop created something out of nothing as a culture with rap music that's no
—[194:17.100 --> 194:25.460] more different than you know somebody playing a chord on the side of a shactor and slavery but then again people calling slavery forced labor
—[194:26.820 --> 194:34.900] right now so we gotta we gotta just watch the narratives that's what we just gotta understand that you know people gonna they're gonna stay with their beliefs till the
—[194:34.900 --> 194:42.960] day they die, so don't try to change them. All right, we got it, Chuck. Yeah, shout out to Chuck. Hey, Chuck, you much more fucking democratic than I am. He's way better
—[194:42.960 --> 194:52.040] than me. Fuck Jay Simmons, how about that? How about that? There you go. N-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n There you go. N-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-NOODLE BOYS! And the last little
—[194:52.040 --> 195:00.200] piece of our racist and bigot segment... The ring, amidst backlash from
—[195:00.200 --> 195:08.660] that commercial that they put out over the Super Bowl. You've got rid of their little dog finding program. Negro Catcher. The ring has ended its partnership
—[195:08.800 --> 195:16.980] with Flock, a tech surveillance company that works with police. Days after Ring's Super Bowl ad, boasting a feature to help find missing dogs sparked controversy.
—[195:18.080 --> 195:26.240] Following a comprehensive review, we determined the planned flock safety integration would require significantly more time and resources
—[195:26.640 --> 195:34.660] than anticipated. As a result, we have made the joint decision to cancel the planned integration, Ring said in a February 12th
—[195:34.720 --> 195:43.960] statement, the integration never launched, so no Ring customer videos were ever sent to Flock safety. End
—[195:43.960 --> 195:52.260] quote. In October 2025, the home security device company announced a partnership with flock which uses a network of surveillance technology including license plate readers
—[195:52.380 --> 196:00.760] Oh, man dogs got cars Play readers and video detection to help law enforcement agencies so
—[196:01.640 --> 196:09.640] Your voice matters your protests work sometimes round the floor Round of applause for the ring seemingly doing the right thing. I'm
—[196:09.640 --> 196:18.000] taking credit for that 1, not me, but y'all. Like this was like, we wanted to make major outlets that spoke out about this. Yeah, that's true. That
—[196:18.000 --> 196:26.080] was a mess. Yeah, wait, take your credit for what? All they said is we ain't connecting to the fans no more. We still got the service running. The
—[196:26.080 --> 196:34.340] shit is still automatically on through all of your rings. Like, I'm telling people, yo, you got a ring, go into the settings, it's opted in automatically.
—[196:34.920 --> 196:43.260] Go into your settings and turn the shit off to say what turn off this available turn off the the watch party shit the word that that whole that's that feature
—[196:43.260 --> 196:51.420] is still running on everybody's rings right now what they're saying is they had partnered up with that company yeah this
—[196:51.420 --> 196:59.520] bullshit that they telling y'all. Flock about to find another engine. No, they're gonna change the name. We're not fucking with Flock no more. Now
—[196:59.520 --> 197:07.620] it's called Frack. I would urge people to then, if what ice is saying is true then to not go in your
—[197:07.620 --> 197:15.640] ring settings and Opt out I would urge you to find another carrier for your unplug this for your video There is
—[197:15.640 --> 197:23.860] other ones go hard wire Get your wired surveillance system with the little box like we had back in the day, the little hard
—[197:23.860 --> 197:31.980] drive shit. Do your own wired shit. All that. Once you start clouding, I hate to be the 1 to tell y'all, They got you. They got you. Once
—[197:31.980 --> 197:40.100] you start fucking with them clouds and all of that You can access it from your phone. Yeah, that sounds like it's good and it helps you out But you ain't the only
—[197:40.100 --> 197:48.300] 1 that can access it. You know, I'm fine. I like cuz they did that 1 That's everything they can also shut them. No, they did exactly that 1 of my houses got raided. I
—[197:48.300 --> 197:56.680] had the service off. That shit was on my phone for like a week for free. My tip call panned out. I was like, oh shit. Like yo, it was on my shit for like a week. I didn't even,
—[197:56.680 --> 198:05.160] I ain't pay for it. I was waiting for it. He right. Yeah man, like just, yo, the hardwired. Yeah. And
—[198:05.160 --> 198:13.960] there you have it, man. Hey, come on, man. Hey, what's that, Big Dog? You know that's the joint, man. I'm
—[198:13.960 --> 198:22.660] ending our racist segment the right way. A little rock and roll all night. It won't play now. Look at that. Look,
—[198:22.660 --> 198:31.960] hate when that happen, right? Oh, shit. Here
—[198:31.960 --> 198:45.280] we go. Share this up a little bit, man. Y'all looking down and out. Pam Bondi got y'all tight in the face. There
—[198:45.280 --> 198:54.200] you go, bars. You can jam. Hey. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. I
—[198:54.200 --> 199:02.320] ain't never heard of this before. It's AI. Joe, quote-
—[199:02.320 --> 199:12.496] Carisha, you should have them write the song. That T-shirt is just, hey, hey.
—[199:14.504 --> 199:22.900] All right. Stefan Diggs went to court. He pled not guilty. Of course.
—[199:23.560 --> 199:32.120] Who knows? We'll see what's going on with that. That's the end of my reporting. I'm not a journalist. There you go. Does Anyone else have anything that
—[199:32.120 --> 199:40.580] is weighing on their hearts, souls, spirits, minds, bodies? I think we did it.
—[199:40.680 --> 199:48.800] Lunch. We did it, man. That shit still smell like something. I'm only be hungry every time she come, but it do smell good. It's the idol. That one's suck. That one's smell like salt. And
—[199:48.800 --> 199:57.480] it's her birthday. And it's her birthday. And it's her birthday. And it's her birthday. There was ribs in here the other day, bro. But lunchtime is for the people that got here on
—[199:57.620 --> 200:05.660] at the right time. You've been here hours. Oh, I'm so hungry. Kat, that
—[200:05.660 --> 200:13.740] is bullshit. This nigga's... I was gonna help you. Oh man. All right, listen, I think I am done with you guys, but because
—[200:13.740 --> 200:21.780] I have a heart, and this is 1 of the more beautiful things I've ever heard before I end, I leave you with a word from James Vanderbeek
—[200:21.940 --> 200:29.980] himself. Define myself as an actor, right? Today's my birthday and it has been the
—[200:29.980 --> 200:38.180] hardest year of my life And I wanted to share something that I learned with y'all. When I was younger, I used to
—[200:38.180 --> 200:46.360] define myself as an actor, right? Which was never really all that fulfilling. And then it began on husband and that was
—[200:46.360 --> 200:54.640] much better. And then it became a father and that was the ultimate. I could define myself then as a loving, capable,
—[200:55.440 --> 201:03.600] strong, supportive husband, father, provider, steward of the land that we're so lucky to live on. And for a long time, that felt
—[201:03.600 --> 201:11.780] like a really good definition to the question, who am I? What am I? And then this year, I
—[201:13.280 --> 201:21.640] had to look my own mortality in the eye. I had to come nose to nose with death. And all of those definitions
—[201:21.940 --> 201:30.100] that I cared so deeply about were stripped from me. I was away for treatment. So I could no longer be a husband that was helpful to my wife.
—[201:30.100 --> 201:39.520] I could no longer be a father who could pick up his kids and put them to bed and be there for them I could not be a provider because that wasn't working. I Couldn't
—[201:39.520 --> 201:48.840] even be a steward of the land because at times I was too weak to Prune all the trees during the window that you're supposed to prove them. And
—[201:48.840 --> 201:57.540] so I was faced with the question, if I am just a too skinny, weak guy alone in
—[201:57.540 --> 202:05.640] an apartment with cancer, What am I? And I
—[202:05.640 --> 202:14.420] meditated and the answer came through. I am worthy of God's love. Simply
—[202:14.420 --> 202:24.060] because I exist. And if I'm worthy of God's love, shouldn't I also be worthy of my own? And
—[202:24.060 --> 202:32.060] the same is true for you. And as I move through this healing portal toward recovery, I wanted to share that with you, because I think
—[202:32.120 --> 202:40.140] that revelation that came to me was doing no small part all the prayers and the love that have been directed toward me. So I offer that to
—[202:40.140 --> 202:48.660] you, however it sits in your consciousness, whoever resonates, run with it. If the word God trips you up, I
—[202:48.660 --> 202:56.680] certainly don't know. I can't claim to know what God is or explain God. My efforts to connect to God are an ongoing process that
—[202:56.680 --> 203:05.160] is a constant unfolding mystery to me. But if it's a trigger, it feels too religious, You can take the word God out of your mantra can simply be I
—[203:05.160 --> 203:15.960] am worthy of love Because you are Thank
—[203:15.960 --> 203:23.986] you for the love and prayers everyone. Have a blessed day. Wow. Hey. Hey yo dawg. Amen. Don't put that shit on
—[203:23.986 --> 203:32.140] no more man. So sad. I think it's really important to hear what people have to say especially while they're on their deathbed. She got me a little teary. No, I'm about
—[203:32.140 --> 203:40.340] to say for the people out there wondering I cried is that my phone? Yes. Yes And you're a cry don't never stop playing shit work. They just
—[203:40.340 --> 203:48.340] keep that Rest in peace James Vanderbilt man rest in peace Thoughts and prayers to your family. Thank you for your service.
—[203:48.340 --> 203:56.580] That was all Thank you for the word. That was real. Thank you for the word. I appreciate it We need my leg my last time asking
—[203:56.580 --> 204:08.400] if anybody here has anything that they know Yo,
—[204:08.400 --> 204:16.780] thank you all for listening, Hopefully you enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it. I enjoyed it much more because it's my girl, Big
—[204:16.780 --> 204:25.160] Demona's birthday. Stop fucking playing wild. Happy birthday! Hey, hey, hey, Juicy, tonight, when my girl celebrating,
—[204:25.940 --> 204:34.080] is what I wanna hear in the background, Juicy. You're not gonna hear that. Hey! Not where they going, you're not gonna hear that. Nah, Not in Delaware, not that little girl shit that going.
—[204:34.080 --> 204:42.100] Not at the actys, in the hood. Yo, keep us in your prayers, Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time, we bid you adieu, farewell,
—[204:42.200 --> 204:52.420] adios, a viva, derci, hasta la vista, au revoir, so long, goodbye, ego. Until
—[204:52.420 --> 205:00.680] next time, man, y'all hold it down. Last but certainly not least, remember the baddies are insecure. The stagnant women want to travel and the closed minded
—[205:00.680 --> 205:08.860] women want you to teach them things grab you a Tylenol you might need it I know what the Mona doing this weekend what y'all on this week and what y'all on this weekend just love my baby
—[205:12.260 --> 205:20.260] Baby if I didn't tell you in these 7 years, oh girl girl Wow yo You complete me
—[205:20.260 --> 205:30.680] girl. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I'm so happy. I'm so happy to be here with you I'm so happy you're here with me. Thank you
