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FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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Korean BBQ was amazing. Time to interlock toes w my girl before I gotta put her back in her cage 🥰
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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And she’s the one treating ME 😂🤷🏾‍♂️
NoviPremium @novodideviod 9h ago
We jumping you now 🤣
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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I receive that.
Tony RojosPremium @tonyrojos 9h ago
I mean as the rest have said. We see what you’re getting at… it’s just a false parallel
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
Joe Budden Podcast
I forgot me and my girl actually DO have a dinner date tonight… that’s hilarious 😂
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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It’s wrapped Unc. Y’all can breathe again
UNCPremium @XSR5400 9h ago
As a nigga that doesn’t care about male thoughts and feelings!!! Yall niggas need to SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! #Subjeet
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
Joe Budden Podcast
Right, that’s what o said about the earlier discussion.

I ain lock the bitch in the house, I just say “nah” 😂🤷🏾‍♂️ I’m a pretty chill guy really. My voice can’t get over a certain octave and volume 😂😂
Tony RojosPremium @tonyrojos 9h ago
I mean you could be insecure or it’s just your preference. If you’re not into that and someone ask you. Just simply say no. Now if you get all rah rah about it…. There might be a lil something else going on
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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In closing…


We all..as black men… need therapy.
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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That is insane 😂😂🤦🏾‍♂️

I should’ve chose something a little less extreme.
NoviPremium @novodideviod 9h ago
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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Well cause what if she says you’re insecure because you won’t be more open to it, like other heterosexual men are ?🤷🏾‍♂️

I admit it… that was a little extreme though 😂
Tony RojosPremium @tonyrojos 9h ago
I guess. I just don’t know why you’d position it like that to your partner. It’d come off a type of way to your partner I would imagine.
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
Joe Budden Podcast
Preferences can’t be boundaries ?
Tony RojosPremium @tonyrojos 9h ago
That would be neither. That’s a sexual preference.
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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So is not being into prostate orgasms a boundary or insecurity?
Tony RojosPremium @tonyrojos 9h ago
Boundaries help us protect areas that we feel sensitive or insecure about.
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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That we can both agree on. Don’t mean I’m gonna automatically give you the room to play w me. I’ll let it be known I don’t play that shit.

Now if you cheat and I never find out, I salute you 🤷🏾‍♂️😂
ImTheKangBih @KangRioEFBC 9h ago
If its the ex or the pope if she wanna give that pussy away nigga its SOLD!!!!!!
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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Okay I’m done since our passionate debate left the timeline drained.

I feel like it’s a healthy conversation, especially for men that deal w insecurities… but mehh 🤷🏾‍♂️
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FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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Does that make him insecure?

Also that’s what I’ve been saying. I never said she can’t go to dinner w a male counterparts. The part I set my boundary at, is the ex. Maybe I didn’t clarify enough
ImTheKangBih @KangRioEFBC 9h ago
NO! Because that is not a BOUNDARY for them. He is not insecure in THAT situation. He admitted there are some names she could say that he would say no too.

I have been with corporate women, I have also slept with tourist, as I live in a convention city. So its all about you and your partner. If your shit rocky she gone do what she gone do. If you aint doing what you supposed to she gone do it too. But, if you are doing your job right as a man and supporter of your partner trust she will have the dinner and not disrespect the relationship.
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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Wasn’t a round one, cause I’m still saying no 😂🤷🏾‍♂️
Thiccney Griner @BadBishYoda 10h ago
Wait round two?.. I thought yall was done
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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Saying talking to me is like talking to a woman, after my mends is kinda disrespectful.. not gon hold you big dawg
ImTheKangBih @KangRioEFBC 10h ago
Ahhh this like talkin to a woman. You see a word and get attached to it. I said you have you had to understand what compromise is. That wasnt me asking Do you compromise for your boundaries. I then asked do your realize you dont CONTROL your partner. You neglected that.

If your partner respected your boundary. And your partner did not want to attend said dinner. Your partner would not ask you to go. But, you from the questionin the partner does want to go, so she on the way out whether you know it or not. You just the last one to know.
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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Saying no to a private dinner date, and saying she can’t have male counterparts are different too. Boundaries exist in various forms.

It took me being in my relationship now to see that, there are women that actually respects boundaries and don’t see them as insecure.
ImTheKangBih @KangRioEFBC 10h ago
You and your partner discussing what respect looks like for the both of you is not having boundaries. Telling someone how to treat you is setting boundaries. When you treat me like.... When you talk to me like... That would be setting boundaries. When you start dictating their actions it turns into something else. If you go here it will make me... When you talk to.... When you wear...

Thats two different things
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
Joe Budden Podcast
So you feel like Marc’s wife is otw out the door ? Because this is where it originated from
ImTheKangBih @KangRioEFBC 10h ago
Ahhh this like talkin to a woman. You see a word and get attached to it. I said you have you had to understand what compromise is. That wasnt me asking Do you compromise for your boundaries. I then asked do your realize you dont CONTROL your partner. You neglected that.

If your partner respected your boundary. And your partner did not want to attend said dinner. Your partner would not ask you to go. But, you from the questionin the partner does want to go, so she on the way out whether you know it or not. You just the last one to know.
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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I ain gonna keep going on about this boundary shit all day.

But @KangRioEFBC I ain got no beef w you, we can just agree to disagree. Maybe I need to grow more as a person, who knows🤷🏾‍♂️ But I don’t want this exchange to become a reflection on what we think about each other. I didn’t take any of it personal, we just got different views🙏🏾
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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My intent isn’t to stop anyone from anything. She asked me, and I said no. That’s all. Now what she does after that, is up to her.

I would personally expect her to handle that without asking me.
Tony RojosPremium @tonyrojos 10h ago
You still haven’t answered my question from earlier. Do you think your no is going to stop her if she wants to go?
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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I agree w that for the most part. But a goal without a plan, will fail anyways. I like to at least try, if it fails it fails.

Also I was engaged before, just not married.

You (not you specifically) can not have boundaries, and let someone treat you however.. don’t cry about how you get treated.
ImTheKangBih @KangRioEFBC 10h ago
And also AGAIN if you are setting up limitations, parameters, boundaries in order for your relationship to succeed..... ITS GOING TO FAIL
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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Are you still married ?

I perfectly know what compromise is, because I have done it and continue to in my relationship now. Do you have to compromise all your boundaries for your partner ? No.

I ain lock her in the house, I just said no to a dinner date.

If WE were invited to a dinner, that’s different. To me at least.
ImTheKangBih @KangRioEFBC 10h ago
Yes. And?!......

As for you initial statement. You further express the inability to comprehend the message. When you establish your relationship the boundaries are set from that conversation. If you are not, then you are not properly vetting.

I have cont. to say if you have a boundary where TRUST is the foundation having dinner should not be a worry. However, that boundary also would NOT be tested if when yall conversed about the relationship. If ur partner is not already mentally one foot out the door.
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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I don’t have to be married to have a boundary.

Weren’t you ?
ImTheKangBih @KangRioEFBC 11h ago
Thought So.... Unexperienced just talkin cuh!
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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I’m not insecure towards people. My art is the only thing, because I’m a perfectionist and I can tell the mistakes of it.

I don’t feel any insecurities to people tho
ImTheKangBih @KangRioEFBC 11h ago
Are you not insecure, a lil insecure or in denial?
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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Just because you niggas are insecure, doesn’t mean everyone is🤷🏾‍♂️
Anochi718Premium @therealanochi 12h ago
Niggas be labeling their insecurities as boundaries. Self sabotage at its finest!
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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So if they cross the boundary, then your relationship should still be good right?
ImTheKangBih @KangRioEFBC 11h ago
No! But if you have to set up boundaries to secure the safety and security of the longevity of the relationship then YES it is..
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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Cause I wasn’t talking to you nigga. I was replying to someone else.

And no, this was all hypothetical.
ImTheKangBih @KangRioEFBC 12h ago
Notice Im talking direct to you...

Are you married, if so how long? Do you have children if so how old?
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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And being insecure is okay, I’m however not all that insecure about other people. Maybe my art, but not a person.
Tony RojosPremium @tonyrojos 12h ago
I am aware you’re not saying that. But I think it’s the underlying issue. We all have insecurities. I think men feel chump being honest about it
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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I ain got no problem w bro. I thought we was just having a debate, then I noticed this man getting upset over MY boundary😂😂

It gotta be because I said a shorty spun him. Oh well nigga, we all been there.
BrosiabeePremium @Ambrosia 12h ago
Yall they beefing …. Go put batteries in they back … cus I wouldn’t let nobody talk to me like that lol
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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Gotta be cause you in your body for what nigga ? You 40, tighten up.

How I run my shit, ain got shit to do w you. NO YOU CANT TAKE MY BITCH TO OLIVE GARDEN !! FUCK YO CLOSURE NIGGA
ImTheKangBih @KangRioEFBC 12h ago
Sure....
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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Nigga I was speaking out loud to the room. I directed what I wanted to say at you.

I don’t know you to be scared of you my g. Especially through the internet. Don’t get it fucked up
ImTheKangBih @KangRioEFBC 12h ago
If you Pussy and scared of other niggaz just say that.... NO SUB!!!! IM Direct with it...
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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Yo…Is this because I said shorty spun you ??

I’m sorry big brudda 🥺😭
ImTheKangBih @KangRioEFBC 12h ago
le sigh.... Dawg you strugglin thru this convesation. U aint gotta say you think ur wife would leave or cheat the actions and words speak for themselves. you dont trust your partner, or trust that they are telling you the truth. Or what you wanna say you dont trust the other person? So again you dont trust your partner to have made a proper decision in the first place. Which would be a completely different coversation.
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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If your wife would go on a dinner date w her ex… she’ll let you eat it after he nut in it too 🤷🏾‍♂️
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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Like I said earlier niggas DO NOT know the difference between insecurities and boundaries
Thiccney Griner @BadBishYoda 13h ago
This ...every "negative " feeling or emotion is not based in insecurity...I can say no, not like something or be jealous even and not be insecure... because I dont feel anyway about myself when I feel these feelings
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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I’m not seeing where the disconnect is.

Where am I saying that I’m afraid my wife will cheat or leave me?

If this was a Muslim couple, nobody would be saying they’re insecure 😂😂
Tony RojosPremium @tonyrojos 13h ago
I think the entire conversation comes down to the last word in that definition. “That make you question your safety”. To me the safety of your relationship is the part you’d be questioning.
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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First.. if it was reverse, I would need the EMTs outside the door before I ask my wife some shit like that😂😂

Second, where did I say I think my wife would leave me or cheat?

Hey if you cool w that, then good for you my good brotha
ImTheKangBih @KangRioEFBC 13h ago
You think setting a boundary is supposed to secure your insecurities of your partner leaving. People gone do whatever they want to do, you just gotta make sure you doing your part to secure their decision in choosing you. And the same goes in reverse
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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And that can’t be done through a phone call, text, zoom, ft etc…? The dinner date or lunch date is the best way to do those things?

Better yet, how do I not know this hypothetical pain my hypothetical wife has been holding in ? I would imagine I would know my wife prior to marrying her.
ImTheKangBih @KangRioEFBC 13h ago
Not, er'thing is about U tho. If ur partner approached u and had real intentions to further the relationship with u then the reason would be revealed. And since there is a NEED for scenarios to give u security in ur insecurities that forced u to set a BOUNDARY.

Lets say ur partner has been holding in some hurt. Some pain that had not been revealed to u, that was caused by said ex. A sit down convo could be had whether it be dinner, or lunch. SO that they may heal. However the real issue here is the insecurity of pot loss of her.
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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Oh it wouldn’t be up for negotiation. I said “no” that’s it, full stop😂🤷🏾‍♂️ now shorty can do w that what she will.
Tony RojosPremium @tonyrojos 13h ago
That’s the only part for me. I’d have accept that is her desire and act accordingly. I’m not finna negotiate my desires against hers.
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
Joe Budden Podcast
By definition? No. I know myself pretty well. I am who I am, and I know what I’m not.
Tony RojosPremium @tonyrojos 13h ago
Do you have any insecurities?
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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I definitely agree w the “why would you even say//ask me that” part. But like I said, there’s a million ways to catch up.. you skipped every stop and went to dinner ???
Tony RojosPremium @tonyrojos 13h ago
You keep saying “need”. Nobody need to do anything. If they’re friends they may just want to catchup. I’m not telling my wife no. That is not to say I won’t feel a type of way etc. But if it’s something she has a desire to do… that is the problem. Not that she went. Why does she desire to do it? Same as Aaron Rodgers fiancé going to get popped. I don’t care about the pop. I want to know why you want that. And why you think you can say that to me???
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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Let’s be clear. I never mentioned cheating, assumed it or anything. I set a boundary. That’s completely normal.

Niggas be so insecure that they don’t know the difference between the two.

I’ve cheated before, I know the cheat can happen, whenever and however.. regardless if I give permission or not. That’s not what the conversation is about though.
ImTheKangBih @KangRioEFBC 13h ago
Is my relationship in shambles, if so what did I do. If I did nothing then shit if the woman cheating Im out. Aint no need to make a big fuss about shit, I did my part time to move on. Be hurt on the way out the door. Fuck all this who wrong who... Niggaz is GROWN!!! Not children this aint a tit for tat. I talk toxic shit about bitches i dont give a fuck about. Women do the same. She cheated cuz she aint give a fuck.... NEXT
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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I didn’t feel it was deep, I could have agreed w a different scenario. However you didn’t, so my stance is the same.

No way did I say they can’t communicate. I said that I don’t agree w a dinner date🤷🏾‍♂️ see? That’s called a boundary, not insecurity.

If you’re persistent on crossing that boundary, then that is a separate conversation.
ImTheKangBih @KangRioEFBC 13h ago
Why I gotta dig that deep. 1. Thing for certain is if I jump in a relationship my insecurity will never be if she goin somewhere, or cheating ever again. Have I exp. that? Yes. But that not where my concern lies.

So the initial question was about the insecurity of your partner going on this dinner date. So if said partner confronts you about it assuming asking permission to go, and the response is NO there lies the insecurity. The insecurity of losing your partner.

You focuse on your partner and ex communicating... I could give a fuck less.
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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Shiiiiid… you can be friends through social media, text, ft, zoom, Skype…. Even emails. You don’t need a dinner to be friends.
dejaPremium @itsdejalee 13h ago
I don’t mind explaining why it’s an issue. It doesn’t even have to be an argument if he genuinely doesn’t understand and had no ill intent. But he needs to be able to clearly explain what was the purpose of the dinner and why he had the desire to go.

And it’s important about who the ex is and their relationship. Like if yall were already friends, that’s understandable. But if it’s on some rekindling shit, yeaaa nah I’m not rolling with that.
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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But we are speaking hypothetically if your spouse ASKED you, so me saying no isn’t controlling… it’s my answer.

No way did I say my wife can’t speak to or know any exes. I have exes I’m cool w… THAT would be controlling.

Now give us a scenario where your spouse and their ex need to communicate that requires more than a FT//Zoom ?
ImTheKangBih @KangRioEFBC 14h ago
Yes it can be a insecurity because you dont control ur partner. You should be secure in self to allow ur partner to make heady decisions on their own. That is a decision they should be able to make all on their own.
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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How so?
ImTheKangBih @KangRioEFBC 14h ago
Lolol I dont think yall deal with your insecurities
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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Insecure or not… I’ll be able to say “fuck naw” fast enough to break the sound barrier 🤷🏾‍♂️
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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No. It just speaks to character. Dinner is an intimate affair. There is no ‘ship’ that requires that level of intimacy between a spouse and ex partner.

If I were to say no my wife can’t speak to any of her exes or men in general, that would be controlling.
Tony RojosPremium @tonyrojos 15h ago
It can be. What is the reason you don’t agree? Are you worried that she may cheat?
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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Niggas cheat everyday b
UNCPremium @XSR5400 15h ago
What about getting married then having an affair!??? That HAS to be higher!!!
FatherPremium @Big_Father314 ·
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A person not agreeing w their significant other having dinner w another person they used to be romantically tied to, is insecure ?
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Tony RojosPremium @tonyrojos 15h ago
If your boundaries are an attempt to control another person they stem from insecurities.
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